Big Government Libertarians?

re: Big Government Libertarians?

IrishOutlaw — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:16:11 GMT

For BP: In part from things in that group, but it is by no means isolated to that group or MySpace.

For L: And Boortz too, lol. Hell, even Newt Gingrich has taken to calling himself a Libertarian as of late. As for politics being give and take, I agree, but principles are unshakable. Without libertarian principles the best those people can hope for is to be small government Republicans, no principles needed for that. As far as Paul is concerned, more power to them. Plus, I don't think you can say anything negative about the man on the internet, I am pretty sure you are considered a "freedom hater" if you do.

re: Big Government Libertarians?

Lojikbom — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:12:40 GMT

I thought you were going to talk more about people like Glen Beck and Bill Maher, who call themselves libertarian but obviously have no clue what the term means.

Personally I don't have a problem with the Libertarian Reform Caucus (LRC) because I see most Libertarians as too idealistic, which is limiting. Politics is a Machiavellian game and involves some give and take. I'm actually hoping that when Paul takes office, he's not going to go in like a gang buster because it's going to take time to ween ppl off the teet of gov't.

As for the Paul candidacy, I think an LP member can take solace in the fact that he's a lifetime LP member who has never renounced his membership. I was at a talk in which someone asked him about his run in 1988 and he replied that he would prefer to run on both parties tickets (LP and GOP) if the state would allow it (which it should). That and his platform has not changed appreciably since he ran on the LP ticket in 1988, so essentially we would be electing an LP member who's running under a different name. It might not seem like the best alternative, but it's not that bad either.

re: Big Government Libertarians?

Brainpolice — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:58:32 GMT

I'm sure you're refering to the constant banter over in the myspace libertarian party group, right? :P

re: Big Government Libertarians?

Anthony Burke — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:58:53 GMT

I agree that neo-cons are trying to take over the LP. I have thought this for awhile but many deny it and say these pro-war libertarians have always been lurking in the party. I say let them have the LP. I wish all those who truly favor liberty could stop thinking about party allegiance and jump over to the republican/Ron Paul ticket. He may be our last hope for liberty in this country because if Hilary gets elected this country will colapse under its own weight. If they (neocons) all join the LP and we can join and sway the republican primary I think liberty can be victorious.