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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://mises.org/Community/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>IrishOutlaw : Libertarians, Republican</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/irishoutlaw/archive/tags/Libertarians/Republican/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: Libertarians, Republican</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>Big Government Libertarians?</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/irishoutlaw/archive/2007/11/21/big-government-libertarians.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:15:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:4091</guid><dc:creator>IrishOutlaw</dc:creator><slash:comments>4</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/irishoutlaw/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=4091</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/irishoutlaw/commentapi.aspx?PostID=4091</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/irishoutlaw/archive/2007/11/21/big-government-libertarians.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;OK, this is kind of off topic for my usual posts, I admit it. But, I have
noticed lots of Big Government Libertarians.&amp;nbsp;That is an oxymoron, right?
Well, any semi-intelligent person would think so; however it seems not to be
the case lately.&lt;/p&gt;



&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Because of recent (if you consider everything since Nixon
recent) political trends, lots of people that would otherwise be happily
calling themselves Republicans have taken to calling themselves Libertarians. The
ties to smaller government Republicans and Libertarians are pretty easy to
trace. You remember, the Republicans that used to believe in freedom and less
government, they used to “cross the line” on occasion and delve into the
Libertarian arena, only to end up back where they belonged later on. Maybe once
they logically followed libertarian thought to its conclusion it scared them, I
don’t really know. And really, isn’t that the disconnect, even between
libertarians and Libertarians? Yes, I used the big L and little L deal, sue me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;I believe that the market can do anything that the
government can do and can do it more efficiently and effectively. But I have no
problem with people that have a hard time accepting private arbitration and
security. I think with the right intervention they can be saved. The
Libertarian party has always been fairly accepting of libertarians and market
anarchists, they are after all the ones that have developed the thinking and
theories that for the most part dominate and lend credence to the principles of
the party. Even if they are not one big happy family, at least they shared
enough common traits to be civil.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Enter the Big Government Libertarians. They seem to have no
problem with military intervention in the name of “security”. After all, a huge
military is what has made the US a super-power. Add to that the newer disdain
for all things immigration. Those “damn Mexicans” are stealing our jobs and our
welfare. The fact that their position lends credibility to the welfare state
doesn’t seem to faze them. Close those borders and save our country. Another
biggie for them is abortion. The government should by all means step in and end
this brutal practice. It’s like some twisted Oz like mantra, “Abortionists and
terrorists and Mexicans, oh my”. It doesn’t stop there though.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Drug legalization? They can see their way to possibly
legalize marijuana, but other drugs are a bane of a free society. Mandatory
auto insurance (one of my biggest pet peeves) is necessary so that people can
recoup their loses from irresponsible drivers. Gun control? Well who would
argue that citizens shouldn’t be able to own any type of weapon they want,
after all, we would have a bunch of wackos shooting up schools if people could
get any weapon they wanted. And of course, their hero is the late great Ronald
Reagan. Even suggest that he wasn’t the savior of freedom and they are libel to
go into nuclear meltdown.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Do they all share these exact same views? Not always, but
the majority of them do. Their current goals include changing the Libertarian
Party to be “more election worthy”, which includes everything from changing the
platform of the party to reaching out to decidedly non-libertarian candidates.
They have taken the name “Libertarian” upon themselves and turned it into
something that isn’t even recognizable as libertarian. To me the funniest part
is to see them discussing their positions in a group of libertarians. When no
one agrees with them, they claim the whole bunch of them are not libertarians,
just damn anarchists. Point out that the Libertarian Platform, pre-coup attempt,
and they accuse you of being a “purist” that is living in the past.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;So why are these people flocking to the Libertarian Party?
Obviously their ideas are unpopular in the Republican Party and big military is
hard to sell to Democrats. The open style of the Libertarian Party makes a
takeover seem not only likely, but pretty workable. I think the seed of the Big
Government Libertarians takes their cues from the Neo-Con movement and its
takeover of the Republican Party. A lot of their positions seem to be similar
to me. They have killed off the smaller government Republican, now they have
their sites on the very limited government Libertarians. They have no interest
or time for libertarian thought. It runs counter to their goal of gathering
political power. It isn’t that they want to be free from the chains of government;
they just want to hold the whip for a while.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;This coming year is going to be a telling year for the
Libertarian Party. They are faced with a mass defection of support for a
Republican candidate. They are faced with the Big Government Libertarians
infiltrating the party. I hope they always remember that the libertarians are
still out here and still sticking to the principles that have guided our
thoughts and actions all along. Maybe they can convince the Big Government
Libertarians to go back to being Small Government Republicans.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href="http://nonamegroup.wikidot.com/"&gt;The No Name Group Project&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

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