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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://mises.org/Community/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Brainpolice : old right, conservatism</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/old+right/conservatism/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: old right, conservatism</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>Left-Libertarianism</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/05/26/left-libertarianism.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 18:39:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:34783</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>27</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=34783</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=34783</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/05/26/left-libertarianism.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;I consider myself a left-libertarian. To avoid any confusion over what this may imply, I fully support private property, voluntary exchange, money, rent, employment, and so on (or more strictly speaking, I don&amp;#39;t advocate their abolition). And I completely oppose the state. I advocate a free market in everything, from&amp;nbsp;clothing and shelter&amp;nbsp;to defense and arbitration. I have a dislike for people like Noam Chomsky, who I feel is largely economically illiterate and confused. I&amp;#39;m not a marxist or a communist or a syndicalist. Some may therefore be thinking, &amp;quot;so what&amp;#39;s so &amp;#39;left&amp;#39; about it? what differentiates you from &amp;#39;right&amp;#39; libertarians? you sound like any other anarcho-capitalist to me!&amp;quot;. I&amp;#39;d like to explain&amp;nbsp;myself in order to make it clear that there is a very real distinction to be made.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Firstly, it is worth exploring how one views power in general.&amp;nbsp;All libertarians, particularly market anarchists, oppose the power of the state. A lot of emphasis is placed on the power of the state and how it effects society. However, in my understanding, while the left-libertarian joins their comrades in opposing the state, they oppose&amp;nbsp;the concentration of power and centralization&amp;nbsp;in general.&amp;nbsp;This includes the concentration or centralization of so-called &amp;quot;private power&amp;quot;. While cookie-cutter anarcho-capitalists make brilliant arguments against state power, they tend to specialize so much in doing&amp;nbsp;so that they may&amp;nbsp;neglect the problems with the concentration of &amp;quot;private&amp;quot; power. Their libertarianism is &amp;quot;thin&amp;quot; in the sense that it is restricted to anti-statism. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The cookie-cutter anarcho-capitalist often seems to act as if whatever is &amp;quot;private&amp;quot; is legitimate in all respects. It&amp;#39;s almost as if the principles somehow magically don&amp;#39;t apply when we are dealing with non-state organizations. But to use a simple example, a gang or mafia may be &amp;quot;private&amp;quot; but it certainly is not legitimate. The left-libertarian views matters more broadly, that is, they apply libertarian principles not only to delegitimize&amp;nbsp;the state but also&amp;nbsp;to any other group of &amp;quot;private&amp;quot; people who violate rights. The left-libertarian&amp;#39;s libertarianism is &amp;quot;thick&amp;quot; in the sense that it is more than just a matter of anti-statism, it is more broadly a matter of anti-authoritarianism and anti-centralization. The left-libertarian may additionally oppose corporations, extremely large buisinesses and possibly even organized religion. The left-libertarian sees no good reason why buisinesses should be centralized. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Karl Hess once described &amp;quot;the right&amp;quot; as supporting the concentration of power into the fewest hands possible, while in contrast &amp;quot;the left&amp;quot; stands for spreading it about as much as possible in an equilibrium. &amp;quot;The left&amp;quot; implies &amp;quot;equality of authority&amp;quot; in which everyone&amp;#39;s freedom is limited by the like freedom of everyone else - a mere restatement of the non-aggression principle. Using this analysis, right-libertarians are to &amp;quot;the left&amp;quot; to the extent that they oppose the concentration of power in the hands of the state, but they nonetheless are still to &amp;quot;the right&amp;quot; to the extent that they still support private concentrations of power. While the right-libertarian may be consistantly anti-state, they are not consistantly opposed to the concentration of power. They may even fully endorse &amp;quot;private&amp;quot; concentrations of power&amp;nbsp;and portray&amp;nbsp;such organizations&amp;nbsp;as victims of the state. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In short, the right-libertarian or cookie-cutter anarcho-capitalist, while they are likely fully aware and informed of the fact that we don&amp;#39;t currently live in a free market or free society, functions as a &amp;quot;vulgar libertarian&amp;quot;. What this means is that they function as&amp;nbsp;apologists for big buisiness, corporations and currently existing conditions or property titles. They use free market theories or analysis to legitimize conditions and organizations&amp;nbsp;that came about in a non-free market. They tend to&amp;nbsp;cling to a worldview in which &amp;quot;big buisiness is America&amp;#39;s most persecuted minority&amp;quot;, as Ayn Rand once stated. They still tend to think of state intervention as somehow being inherently anti-buisiness, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. The right-libertarian is essentially pro-buisiness more or less across the board&amp;nbsp;without proper consideration for context. The left-libertarian calls them out on this. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another difference between the left-libertarian and the right-libertarian is over&amp;nbsp;what they think society will be like in the absence of the state. Cookie-cutter anarcho-capitalists essentially envision a society more or less identifical to currently existing society but without the state. But the left-libertarian sees much more broad implications that would seem to radically alter the organizational structure of a society. The left-libertarian does not think that the results of a free market would mirror current economic conditions by any stretch of the imagination. Left-libertarians may tend to think that free competition would function as a check on the general size of economic organizations, and therefore draconian large buisinesses simply couldn&amp;#39;t survive or exist. They may also be tolerant of or more open to possible &amp;quot;socialistic&amp;quot; experiments within a free market, or advocate a signficant increase in self-employment over standard wage-employment. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The difference between the two sides can also be thought of in terms of how one&amp;#39;s position relates to the traditions of the anti-authoritarian left, or how one views their own position in relation to it. It&amp;#39;s partially a matter of historical context and the political spectrum. Right-libertarians buy into the cliche that socialism is inherently a statist/political system, while left-libertarians aknowledge the existance and possibility of voluntary or anarchistic socialism (in short, all they&amp;#39;re really doing is taking an anarchist without adjectives approach). To the right-libertarian, all socialist forms of organization are inherently violent or political systems - all socialism is state-socialism. To the left-libertarian, there is a distinction to be made between state-socialism and genuinely libertarian socialism. The left-libertarian has a much greater degree of tolerance for &amp;quot;socialistic&amp;quot; forms of organization so long as they are voluntary, while the right-libertarian considers all &amp;quot;socialistic&amp;quot; forms of organization to be inherently involuntary. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#39;s a major difference in terms of where one finds their roots. To the right-libertarian, their philosophy derives from and grew out of&amp;nbsp;the &amp;quot;old right&amp;quot; and the founding fathers of America. To the left-libertarian, their philosophy derives from and grew out of the old libertarian left (the mutualists, the individualist anarchists, the voluntaryists, etc.) and wouldn&amp;#39;t exist without them.&amp;nbsp;The left-libertarian sees market anarchism as having grown out of old non-state socialist traditions and&amp;nbsp;is likely to see ideas such as mutualism as not really being that far off from their own&amp;nbsp;position in the grand scheme of things. In contrast, the right-libertarian is largely out of touch with such roots and probably considers mutualists and other more voluntaristic socialists to be enemies. They see little to no connection between these ideas and contemporary market anarchism, where the left-libertarian does. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another major difference is over strategy and where one thinks their true alliances lie. The left-libertarian is much more likely to be opposed to the political process and consequentially they may not vote, argue against running for office and&amp;nbsp;regularly denounce the libertarian party and reformism. The left-libertarian is a radical and a revolutionary. In contrast, the right-libertarian essentially functions as a minarchist in practise as they regularly participate in the political process, encourage people to participate in it, run for office themselves and advocate reformist strategies. Comparatively, the right-libertarian is a gradualist and even counter-revolutionary. The right-libertarian more or less takes the exact same strategy that a minarchist would, and consequentially falls prey to political oppurtunism and get-liberty-quick schemes. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The difference over where one thinks their alliances are is also significant. Right-libertarians regularly ally with conservatives, particularly paleoconservatives. To the right-libertarian, conservatism&amp;nbsp;is the closest thing&amp;nbsp;to libertarianism&amp;nbsp;on the political spectrum and conservatives inherently are less statist then &amp;quot;the left&amp;quot;. They may even views themselves as an extension of the conservative movement. The left-libertarian, in contrast, wants nothing to do with conservatism and sees no reason why it should be regaurded as somehow less statist than &amp;quot;the left&amp;quot;. The left-libertarian sees conservatives as hijacking the libertarian movement and employing quasi-libertarian rhetoric to get people to associate their own positions with liberty and free markets. To the left-libertarian, conservatism in the original sense of the term is the polar opposite of liberty, as it stands for the status quo, the romantisization of the past and an endless sea of authoritarian tendencies. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From the perspective of the left-libertarian, sometimes the right-libertarian takes positions on current issues that in fact are conservative rather than libertarian. One of the most common cases of this is over the issue of immigration, in which right-libertarians essentially support&amp;nbsp;restricting people from&amp;nbsp;crossing&amp;nbsp;political borders. To the left-libertarian, this merely grants legitimacy to the state and treats it as if it were a legitimate private property owner. The same is true of many so-called &amp;quot;privatization&amp;quot; schemes in which the state sells &amp;quot;its&amp;quot; property off to a single economic organization, essentially transfering from a state held monopoly to a private monopoly. The left-libertarian is much more skeptical of so-called &amp;quot;free market&amp;quot; reforms than the right-libertarian is, being much more likely to consider them manifestations of&amp;nbsp;mercantalism or corporatism. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another difference between the two may simply be a matter of cultural traits or preferances. Right-libertarians may often be strict &amp;quot;cultural conservatives&amp;quot; and therefore have traits such as opposition to multiculturalism, feminism and secularism. They may openly praise &amp;quot;the family&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;the church&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;the nation&amp;quot;.&amp;nbsp;In contrast, the left-libertarian is much more likely to see these things such as multiculturalism and secularism as being good and support voluntaryist versions of them. The left-libertarian may add things such as anti-racism and anti-patriarchy to their agenda, and such things need not be imposed by the state but a result of voluntary efforts. And while many right-libertarians may tend to praise&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;the family&amp;quot;, the left-libertarian may very well be skeptical about the organizational structure of many families and view them as abusive. And perhaps most importantly, the left-libertarian is not a nationalist. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It should be clear at this point what the left-libertarian is not: they are not vulgar libertarians, conservatives, in bed with conservatives, anti-immigrationists, reformists, extreme gradualists, and so on. It is likely&amp;nbsp;(although not necessarily mandatory)&amp;nbsp;that they are not racists, organized religion supporters, nationalists, chauvenists, and so on. The left-libertarian is not an apologist for &amp;quot;private&amp;quot; concentrations of power and corporations. The left-libertarian may very well oppose corporations. In short, the left-libertarian has distanced themselves from conservative traits as much as possible and view themselves as supporting liberty in a much more broad sense than your cookie-cutter anarcho-capitalist does. It is in the context of&amp;nbsp;this much more broad perspective that they are to &amp;quot;the left&amp;quot; of their comrades. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=34783" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Centralization/default.aspx">Centralization</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Racism/default.aspx">Racism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Equality/default.aspx">Equality</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Religion/default.aspx">Religion</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Socialism/default.aspx">Socialism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Libertarianism/default.aspx">Libertarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Economics/default.aspx">Economics</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/old+right/default.aspx">old right</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/conservatism/default.aspx">conservatism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Immigration/default.aspx">Immigration</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Nationalism/default.aspx">Nationalism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/History/default.aspx">History</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Vulgar+Libertarianism/default.aspx">Vulgar Libertarianism</category></item><item><title>Bob Barr Nominated At LP Convention</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/05/26/bob-barr-nominated-at-lp-convention.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 13:06:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:34729</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>15</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=34729</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=34729</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/05/26/bob-barr-nominated-at-lp-convention.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;So Bob Barr got the LP&amp;#39;s nomination at their most recent convention. There is a lot of dirt on this man from a libertarian perspective, ranging from his past support for the drug war&amp;nbsp;and actually&amp;nbsp;being &lt;strong&gt;the author&lt;/strong&gt; of the defense of marriage act. Like all political oppurtunists, he has claimed to have changed his position since then in order to appease the demands of his consistuency. Like all political oppurtunists, this does not mean that he is sincere or that he does not still hold to those positions or would not support them pragmatically. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the two-party system, politicians usually move (I.E. flip-flop or oppurtunistically change their position)&amp;nbsp;towards &amp;quot;the center&amp;quot; in order to get more support. In the libertarian party, politicians usually move to a more radical position (&lt;strong&gt;rhetorically&lt;/strong&gt;, that is) in order to shy away from their blatantly unlibertarian or even anti-libertarian past. In the case of &amp;quot;Big L&amp;quot; libertarians, this is usually in the conservative direction (their past, that is). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To me, this just proves what I&amp;#39;ve been trying to tell libertarians for a long time: that the movement is being &lt;strong&gt;infiltrated by conservatives&lt;/strong&gt; and that the party is a waste of time that becomes less principled each year. The libertarian party has become little more than a mini-GOP that some old disguntled conservatives have flocked to out of disillusionment with the Republicans and neoconservatives. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, with people like Mary Ruwart aside, the closest thing to a libertarian &amp;quot;left&amp;quot; within the party now is Mike Gravel, who &lt;strong&gt;isn&amp;#39;t even a libertarian at all &lt;/strong&gt;in the philosophical sense. Not only is the LP being infiltrated by conservatives, but the &amp;quot;left-wing&amp;quot; of the libertarian party is essentially non-existant. Since I&amp;#39;m a &amp;quot;left-libertarian&amp;quot;, this makes me&amp;nbsp;dislike the party even more.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While I&amp;#39;m not in favor of the party or political strategies at all, putting myself in a cost-benefit analysis mindset for a moment, Mary Ruwart was probably the best option presented (even though she&amp;#39;s been chided by the conservative elements of the movement for her position on/against the age of consent, which really should not be controversial at least within libertarian circles). She did get close at first but Barr moved past her by the end of the convention. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If the moral of the story hasn&amp;#39;t been made clear to libertarians by now, I don&amp;#39;t know what else will get through to them. Clearly the LP and electoral politics in general&amp;nbsp;has not been, is not and never will be a meaningful strategy for liberty. It is has proved to be counterproductive time and time again. Each year, the Libertarian Party waters itself down more and more.&amp;nbsp;Political libertarianism is a cosmic joke. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=34729" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Voting/default.aspx">Voting</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Libertarianism/default.aspx">Libertarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/old+right/default.aspx">old right</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/conservatism/default.aspx">conservatism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Prohibition/default.aspx">Prohibition</category></item><item><title>I hate conservatism</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/01/10/i-hate-conservatism.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:29:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:9225</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>4</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=9225</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=9225</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/01/10/i-hate-conservatism.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;In the most classical definition of the word, conservatism has always stood for a defense of the status quo. In the 18th and 19th centuries, the so-called &amp;quot;liberal&amp;quot; parties were more or less interested in revolutionary change into the future and opposition to political power, while the so-called &amp;quot;conservative&amp;quot; parties were a reactionary movement that was interested in maintaining the privileges of the existing political classes and elites of the times. In those days, this meant a defense of things such as monarchy, land privileges and the union of church and state. Hardly an admirable political position. The thing to be conserved by conservatives in those days was political power and the privileges that came with it to particular private individuals. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As a historical view, conservatism has a tendency to romantisize the past. In particular, anything from colonial America to fuedal Europe to the 1950&amp;#39;s is painted in as positive light as possible to the level of absurdity. Conservatives tend to paint colonial America as a haven of freedom. Yet, not to sound cliche, but this is only remotely true if you were rich, white and male. If you were a native American, a slave or the average worker your conditions were fairly horrid. This is of course not an indictment against freedom, because freedom was denied to such people in the first place. In either case, the conservative idea of &amp;quot;turning back the clock&amp;quot; represents a desire to do something that is impossible. While the starry-eyed progressive and social darwinist notions of perpetual or gradual progress into the future may be silly, the idea of returning to a past utopia is equally absurd. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In modern times, conservatism is in many ways the most hypocritical contemporary political position. At least the so-called &amp;quot;liberals&amp;quot; are consistant in that the objective content of their political positions more accurately matches their rhetoric, as they tend to openly advocate a nanny state. But conservatives have been preaching rhetoric in favor of limiting the government&amp;#39;s powers for decades, yet the objective content of their political positions is in sum total pretty much no less statist than that of the contemporary left, and in practise they have expanded the power of the state every time that they have gained the helm of political power.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For years, conservatives have promised to gut taxes, spending and federal departments. But it seems that this has been little more than rhetoric. While making such promises and claims, they have proposed and fully supported the establishment of new departments such as the department of homeland security, and have been more than happy to expand funding to the military and intelligence bereaucracies. They have proposed and rubber stamped massive spending increases on both domestic and foreign policy. The neoconservative&amp;#39;s foreign policy of aggression and empire inherently requires considerable government intervention in the economy and a drain on the resources of the people.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So-called &amp;quot;fiscal conservatism&amp;quot; is clearly a myth. While it is true that Republicans may sometimes cut taxes, these tax cuts are rather miniscule and they never have the courage to actually advocate any abolitions of certain taxes. At best, tbey propose &amp;quot;tax reform&amp;quot;, which is a shell game that merely shifts from one type of taxation to another or one tax bracket to another. Furthermore, conservatives have a long history of simply using monetary inflation to fund the government in order to make up for the initial loss of revenue from the tax cuts. Republicans simply rely more on borrowing from overseas and printing money to fund their expansions of the state. This creates a situation that leads to tax increases in the future anyways. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While conservatives tend to rhetorically support &amp;quot;the free market&amp;quot;, they fall into a false paradime shared by the contemporary left in assuming that we currently have one and in practise they tend to support existing property classes rather than property rights. There is a huge difference between being pro-market and pro-buisiness. Conservatives are generally pro-buisiness, which is to say that they favor government intervention in the economy in order to favor buisiness interests. A free market, on the other hand, by definition requires the lack of government intervention in the economy. The type of system that they favor more closely resembles economic fascism than a free market. Economic fascism is a mixed economy in which the government and big buisiness collude through mechanisms of patronage and protectionism. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While many conservatives rhetorically support a restrained domestic policy, they often paradoxically do not apply the same principles to foreign policy. The idea of cutting back the government at home and expanding it abroad is an oxymoron. It is impossible to have both a limited government at home and a highly active one abroad. A highly active and aggressive foreign policy always coincides with an increase in government intervention domestically. In either case, most American conservatives have almost never met an American war that they did not support. They have a clear history of being war-mongers. And their wars are the most expensive endeavors that a government could possibly engage in. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some may object to my harsh treatment of conservatives by making a sharp distinction between neoconservatives and paleoconservatives, claiming that the paleoconservatives are true to the limited government rhetoric. The paleoconservatives claim to be the true conservatives, and accuse the neoconservatives of being leftists who hijacked their movement. But while there are indeed some signicant differences between these two schools of conservatism, I do not find too much of a significant difference in the some total of state power that both ideologies tend to support. When it all is tallied up, the paleoconservatives aren&amp;#39;t much better than the neoconservatives, and on some issues they may very well be worse than them. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is true that paleoconservatives may tend to be less interventionist when it comes to foreign policy, yet their so-called &amp;quot;isolationism&amp;quot; is a very different thing than non-interventionism. &amp;quot;Isolationism&amp;quot; is a nationalist policy of government intervention in the name of isolating the people within geographic territories from eachother socially and economically. In place of foreign adventurism, paleoconservatives have a tendency to simply reconcentrate the military power domestically into a police state, just pointing the guns a bit closer to home. They are willing to expand the powers of the government in all kinds of ways in the name of fighting immigration. And they have a history of being virulently protectionist when it comes to foreign economics. To make matters worse, they are permeated by social conservatism and therefore may very well tend to support government legislation of religious and traditionalist morality. Paleoconservatism has much in common with national socialism and tends to attract white nationalists. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While it is theoretically possible for someone to hold socially conservative views and confine them to a voluntary context, most social conservatives support enforcing those views onto everyone through the mechanisms of the state. Inevitably, this implies some kind of coerced uniformity in opposition to free association. Social conservatives may have a tendency to use the state as a mechanism to promote their personal cultural preferances for the purpose of oppressing groups that they do not like such as homosexuals, seculars and certain ethnic or religious groups. While people are perfectly free to have whatever cultural views they please, the desire to create a monolithic culture is in contradiction to reality and trying to use the government towards this end is incredibly dangerous. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I find the assumed alliance between libertarians and conservatives in America to be mostly ill founded. While the so-called &amp;quot;old right&amp;quot; of the 1930&amp;#39;s and 40&amp;#39;s contained libertarian elements with in it, such elements were never the mainstream of the movement and their remnants have long since been scattered into oblivion. The &amp;quot;old right&amp;quot; has clearly been overly romanticized in either case. Mysteriously, many libertarians continue to this day to have faith in traditionalist conservatives to magically &amp;quot;restore the republic&amp;quot;. Libertarians have had an unfortunately tendency to vote for Republicans time and time again, under the illusion that the right is somehow more restrained than the left. This tendency has in turn allowed the libertarian movement itself to be infiltrated by conservative elements that water it down. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Indeed, back in the 70&amp;#39;s there were libertarians scrambling to support none other than Richard Nixon. And in the 80&amp;#39;s the same was true of Ronald Reagen. Yet the state expanded by leaps and bounds under both adminstrations, despite the fact that both of them predictably ran on a platform of limiting the government down to a smaller scope. And it would be disingenous to blame such an expansion of the state solely on the Democrats, as conservatives tend to do. These Republicans are responsible for proposing and rubber stamping plenty of expansions of the state in themselves. What&amp;#39;s most puzzling of all is how libertarians could be fooled into supporting or admiring such people in the first place. What will it take to get libertarians to wake up from their slumber and realize that such political means are not conductive to the ends of liberty? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=9225" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/War/default.aspx">War</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Capitalism/default.aspx">Capitalism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Libertarianism/default.aspx">Libertarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Economics/default.aspx">Economics</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/old+right/default.aspx">old right</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/conservatism/default.aspx">conservatism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/isolationism/default.aspx">isolationism</category></item></channel></rss>