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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://mises.org/Community/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Brainpolice : Vulgar Libertarianism, Philosophy</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Vulgar+Libertarianism/Philosophy/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: Vulgar Libertarianism, Philosophy</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>Putting The NAP In Its Proper Context</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2009/01/18/putting-the-nap-in-its-proper-context.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:55:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:80565</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>3</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=80565</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=80565</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2009/01/18/putting-the-nap-in-its-proper-context.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;I contend that the non-aggression principle is not a contextless axoim and it requires a specific definition of the difference between genuine self-defense and the initiation of violence. There is a grave problem that thin libertarianism and plumb-line libertarianism runs into, which is that the non-aggression principle has to be properly specified and taken into its proper context relative to other more specific principles or values. Otherwise, one&amp;#39;s conception of libertarianism may start to undermine itself by either assuming values that contradict the NAP or through vagueness in the definition of what constitutes the initiation of violence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For example, I would contend that the value of revenge and the traditional concept of punishment inherently undermines and violates the NAP. I consider them to constitute justifications for ex-post-facto violence, which is a particular form of the initiation of violence. I would also contend that an absolutist view in favor of violence in defense of property rights undermines and violates the NAP because it justifies pre-emptive violence on the mere grounds that someone is on your property. So I think that genuine self-defense has to be clearly distinguished from pre-emptive and ex-post-facto violence, and the context for genuine self-defense is an actual threat to one&amp;#39;s life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The absolutist view, in contrast, is completely arbitrary because anyone at any time can just go &amp;quot;hey, you&amp;#39;re on my property&amp;quot; and cap someone. But merely being on someone&amp;#39;s property is an arbitrary reason to justify the initiation of force. You need more of a specific context than just &amp;quot;there is someone on my property&amp;quot;. The &amp;quot;punishment&amp;quot; of being shot to death isn&amp;#39;t even remotely proportional to the crime of trespassing or loitering. Compared to life vs. death, tresspassing and loitering is a fairly minor matter. It certainly does not merit arbitrarily shooting people unless the people truly do present an overt threat of force.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Furthermore, I reject the idea that being on someone else&amp;#39;s property means you forfeit your right to life and liberty. It might mean that you have an incentive to generally cooperate, compromise and abstain from infringement, but not that you lose all of your rights all of a sudden. A theory of property rights that overtly undermines the right to life and liberty needs to be fixed, otherwise it is going to be hopelessly inconsistant, even sinking to the level of justifying what are clear cases of assault and murder. Clearly, a consistant theory of rights has to uphold all of the rights, not misdefine rights to the point where one&amp;#39;s alleged defense of one right inherently violates another right in the overall network of rights-concepts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While Objectivists may tend to have a more integrated social philosophy than thin libertarians, Objectivists also fail to put the NAP in it&amp;#39;s proper context, since at least the Piekoff-influenced Objectivists openly justify pre-emptive violence on the largest scale possible in the form of the invasive military apparatus, and there is a degree to which Rand was wishy washy on questions of American imperialism and she definitely seemed to throw a bit of a bone to the political right on questions of foreign policy. The problem with this interpretation of the NAP is that it totally turns a blind eye to the mass-death of innocent bystanders in the crossfire of conflict between nation-states. Scruples over private military proposals aside, thin libertarians actually tend to be pretty good on these sort of questions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Where thin libertarians tend to fail most, however, is in the realm of pre-emptive violence on a smaller scale, in the context of individual private property owners. It&amp;#39;s at this point that thin libertarianism may carve a possible path towards vulgar libertarianism, with the baggage of advocacy of the alleged right of property owners to arbitrarily shoot alleged tresspassers and justifications for feudal or quasi-feudal landlordism. These kind of libertarians tend to treat property rights as axoimatic, and effectively they trump life and liberty in their framework. The tendency is to act as if property rights grants completely arbitrary or absolute decision-making power over other people who are on or make use of your property.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is problematic because it creates tension with the more fundamental principles involved in individual sovereignty. The fact that I&amp;#39;m on someone&amp;#39;s property or the fact that I may technically be capable of leaving someone&amp;#39;s property does not mean that literally whatever they decide to do to me is inherently justified. The decision-making power that property rights grants a person should not be completely arbitrary, since it always must be put into the context of consistantly respecting other people&amp;#39;s rights. Being on someone else&amp;#39;s property should not imply that you are their defacto slave or no longer deserve to live, only that one probably has to compromise with the owner in order to make use of the property. Owning property should not logically grant someone completely absolute and unilaterial decision-making power over other people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So if views on the NAP or the use of violence in general could be put on a spectrum or organized, I&amp;#39;d categorize it like this: (1) Pacifism - All violence is unjustified, including self-defense (2) Thick Libertarianism - The initiation of violence is unjustified, self-defense is justified when there is an actual threat to life (3) Thin Libertarianism - The initiation of violence is unjustified, except in defense of property rights, which is to be categorized as self-defense (4) Objectivism - The initiation of violence is unjustified, except when it is rational &amp;quot;retaliation&amp;quot; (I.E. ex-post-facto or pre-emptive violence is justified), which is to be categorized as self-defense. The problem with both elements of Objectivism and thin libertarianism is that they smuggle in initiations of force by miscategorizing them as self-defense. The thick libertarian option seems the most rational. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=80565" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Objectivism/default.aspx">Objectivism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Non-Aggression+Axoim/default.aspx">Non-Aggression Axoim</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Ethics/default.aspx">Ethics</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Libertarianism/default.aspx">Libertarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Philosophy/default.aspx">Philosophy</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Vulgar+Libertarianism/default.aspx">Vulgar Libertarianism</category></item><item><title>"Plumbline Libertarianism" Pro and Con</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/12/18/quot-plumbline-libertarianism-quot-pro-and-con.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:03:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:72265</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>5</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=72265</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=72265</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/12/18/quot-plumbline-libertarianism-quot-pro-and-con.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;Those familiar with Walter Block should know that he advocates taking what he calls a &amp;quot;plumbline&amp;quot; approach to libertarianism that is neutral to the left/right scale or dichtomy. At face value, I agree with this if one is refering to the warped way in which the left/right scale is commonly construed in mainstream politics, since such a political spectrum cannot practically take libertarianism or anarchism into account. And while the Nolan Chart is certainly an improvement, I also have some problems with it due to the use of a dichotomy between economic and personal liberty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The essence of plumbline libertarianism is that it subsumes anything that is voluntary and that the &amp;quot;tent&amp;quot; of the libertarian movement can theoretically be open enough to accomodate a wide range of groups, and at face value I agree with this as it is basically the equivolent of anarchism without adjectives. There is a degree of overlap between libertarianism and various other positions and there is a wide array of personal preferances that can be put into a libertarian context. On the other hand, the &amp;quot;tent&amp;quot; of the libertarian movement is supposed to be narrow or closed insofar as it&amp;#39;s a question of voluntary interaction vs. coercion, and this is supposed to be represented by &amp;quot;the plumbline&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All this being granted, there are some serious problems that arise for someone trying to take such an approach to libertarianism, because one has to properly identify precisely where the plumbline is and what constitutes coercion, and it is at such a point that the internal divides of the libertarian movement become increasingly relevant. Various libertarians have completely different conceptions of where the plumbline starts and ends, and consequentially they have completely different conceptions of who belongs or doesn&amp;#39;t belong in the libertarian movement. Someone could claim to be a plumbline libertarian and yet be rather partisan or incorrectly biased in terms of where they draw the lines.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There also may be a danger of plumbline libertarianism devolving into an oversimplication or a &amp;quot;thin&amp;quot; libertarianism that treats the status quo as being more voluntary or just than it actually is and brushes aside all concerns that don&amp;#39;t directly relate to the use of force (although it may indirectly relate to it). Some of the vulgar libertarians seem convinced that they are simply remaining true to &amp;quot;the plumbline&amp;quot;, but they are actually misusing libertarian theory as apologetics for currently existing structures and relationships in the economy. It is not true that libertarianism has nothing to say about anything other than the state.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While I don&amp;#39;t believe that you need to have the exact same epistemology or metaphysics as me to be a decent libertarian, I think it&amp;#39;s important to emphasize that the philosophical presuppositions that are used to lead to libertarianism are not irrelevant because the &amp;quot;libertarianism&amp;quot; that they lead to may not necessarily be the exact same &amp;quot;libertarianism&amp;quot;. What positions one held prior to becoming a libertarian are also relevant, as they may still be reflected in someone&amp;#39;s interpretation or understanding of libertarianism. People tend to still cling to biases held prior to their introduction to libertarianism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In summary, I think that the notion of a plumbline libertarianism is sensible and noble at face value but it also poses certain dangers and it must be properly grounded in order to make sense. If it is not properly grounded, then it functions disingenously as a mask or cover for something more partisan or biased than what is being claimed. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=72265" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Non-Aggression+Axoim/default.aspx">Non-Aggression Axoim</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Personal+Freedom/default.aspx">Personal Freedom</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Libertarianism/default.aspx">Libertarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Philosophy/default.aspx">Philosophy</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Vulgar+Libertarianism/default.aspx">Vulgar Libertarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Pluralism/default.aspx">Pluralism</category></item><item><title>False Realism and Utopianism </title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/06/25/false-realism-and-utopianism.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:26:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:39208</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>7</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=39208</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=39208</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/06/25/false-realism-and-utopianism.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;Conservatism is a defense of the existing order or past existing orders&amp;nbsp;as &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot;. Any potential alternative to the existing order or to the romantisized past order&amp;nbsp;is immediately brushed aside as &amp;quot;unnatural&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;utopian&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;idealistic&amp;quot;. In the conservative view, all existing inequalities are &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; in a sort of deterministic sense. The conservative strongly emphasizes nature over nurture to explain and&amp;nbsp;defend currently existing or past existing conditions. On the other hand, utopian left-wing ideologies such as Marxism strongly emphasize nurture over nature and hence attribute&amp;nbsp;the vast majority&amp;nbsp;if not all currently existing conditions and inequalities&amp;nbsp;to political, economic and cultural influences in a deterministic sense. Nothing short of a significant transformation in human nature can possibly obtain the ultimate end sought of a purely egalitarian society, and the desirability&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;implications of&amp;nbsp;such a purely egalitarian society is alarmingly&amp;nbsp;questionable upon reasonable reflection.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The conservative errs in considering the existing order or past orders to be inevitable into the future or that they can possibly sustain themselves perpetually. They tend to&amp;nbsp;ignore the extent to which inequalities are the effect of influences such as state intervention and&amp;nbsp;bureaucracy. The conservative tends to defend the unequitable effects of state intervention as if they came about naturally on the free market, and therefore concludes that currently existing disparaties between various groups of people are both inevitable and justified. When anyone proposes or attempts to change such conditions or the existing order in general in a significant way, the status quo is defended by the conservative. The conservative has little to no concept of the dynamic nature of society over time and fails to see the potential changes that can be made and&amp;nbsp;the advantages that can be reaped. Conservatism can be seen as a very pessemistic view in a sense, particularly pessemistic towards the future. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The marxist engages in the opposite error. They blame all existing inequalities and negative conditions on the non-existant free market and then arbitrarily proclaim that it&amp;#39;s just a phase of history that will inevitably be surpassed by a&amp;nbsp;collectivistic utopia, if only all the workers magically take over the state and somehow voluntarily dissolve it. The marxist does not recognize the degree to which state intervention is the primary cause or enabler of the inequities that they have so much distain for. They put themselves foreward as being proponents of change in the right direction, but what they ultimately have to offer is more of the same: state intervention and centralization. The actual cause of the problems which they aim to solve is precisely what they propose as a solution, and therefore their &amp;quot;change&amp;quot; isn&amp;#39;t a meaningful or beneficial one. They propose what in some ways amounts to an authoritarian heirarchy as the solution to authoritarian heirarchy or dictatorship as a solution to dictatorship.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The distinction between and reliance upon nature and nurture is often a false dichotomy. That which involves human influence&amp;nbsp;is often characterized as &amp;quot;nurture&amp;quot;, yet human beings are a part and product of &amp;quot;nature&amp;quot;. The real question is a matter of which particular parts or aspects of &amp;quot;nature&amp;quot; are influencing other particular parts or aspects of &amp;quot;nature&amp;quot;. There are some issues with the use of the term &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; to begin with. In a certain sense, everything and whatever the current state of affairs happens to be is &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot;. The only alternative to something being &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; would be for it to not exist, unless of course one is&amp;nbsp;proposing that there is&amp;nbsp;some kind of supernatural realm which would still&amp;nbsp;ultimately reduce to non-existance. That being said, it is&amp;nbsp;definitely nonsensical to consider all present conditions and all present forms of organization to be inevitable and a permanent state of affairs. Stasis is not &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot;. Organizations and organizational forms are never permanent in the grand scheme of things, so it would be more genuinely &amp;quot;realistic&amp;quot; to propose that the eventual dissolution of the existing order&amp;nbsp;is &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; and inevitable at some point. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While the conservative puts themselves foreward as a realist, they are truly nothing but a proponent of either stasis or &amp;quot;turning back the clock&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;the good old days&amp;quot;, which becomes their own romantic utopia. The extent to which they see current affairs as moving in an &amp;quot;unnatural&amp;quot; direction causes&amp;nbsp;them to&amp;nbsp;become reactionaries, desparately trying to cling on to old traditions. On the other hand, the marxist sees&amp;nbsp;the present as&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;unnatural&amp;quot; and proclaims an inevitable utopian future to be a &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; progression. They&amp;#39;ve drawn erroneous conclusions from the basis of the hegelian dialectic, philosophy of history&amp;nbsp;and social evolutionary theory. Both involve the bastardization and politicization of science as a handy rhetorical authority and a&amp;nbsp;misguided appeal to either nature or nurture. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=39208" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Determinism/default.aspx">Determinism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Collectivism/default.aspx">Collectivism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Social+Evolution/default.aspx">Social Evolution</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Equality/default.aspx">Equality</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Philosophy/default.aspx">Philosophy</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Human+Nature/default.aspx">Human Nature</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/conservatism/default.aspx">conservatism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/History/default.aspx">History</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Vulgar+Libertarianism/default.aspx">Vulgar Libertarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Marxism/default.aspx">Marxism</category></item></channel></rss>