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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://mises.org/Community/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Brainpolice : Vulgar Libertarianism, Collectivism</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Vulgar+Libertarianism/Collectivism/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: Vulgar Libertarianism, Collectivism</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>Transcending Anarcho-Semantics</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/09/06/transcending-anarcho-semantics.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:49:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:50550</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>11</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=50550</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=50550</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/09/06/transcending-anarcho-semantics.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is a reoccuring problem that occurs within internal libertarian and anarchist discourse that I like to call the anarcho-semantics problem. The anarcho-semantics problem most often occurs in discussions and debates between socialist oriented anarchists and free market libertarians, in which there is a massive communication barrier and consequentially endless misunderstandings. The meanings attached to terms such as capitalism, socialism, libertarianism and anarchism vary significantly, and consequentially discourse often devolves into confused flame wars between partisan camps. Both similiarities and distinctions between various partisan camps are blurred, and confused multi-identity complexes may emerge. Each respective camp has its own esoteric language and specific choice of associations. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Those who identify as socialist or collectivist tend to think that laissez-faire economics is merely apologetics for rich or privileged elites, and thus they tend to close their minds to it from the start. As they understand it, capitalism is an inherently authoritarian system that creates negative conditions for workers and people of meager means. Thus, anyone identifying as capitalist is assumed to be defending such negative conditions and various groups of rich or privileged elites. As a consequence, they may tend to bait those who identify as capitalist or individualist into defending such things. Furthermore, any attempt to create a link between laissez-faire economics and anarchism is viewed as a contradiction in terms, and thus those who do flirt with such a combination are demonized. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In response to such attacks, those who identify as capitalist or individualist tend to function in a number of ways. Some of them truly are apologists for the conditions and privileges in question, and thus they don&amp;#39;t even need to be baited into playing such a role. This role is known as vulgar libertarianism. Others do not have such intentions but allow themselves to be baited on and off into playing such a role. This is vulgar libertarianism in a less overt sense in that the person is being baited. And still yet others have no such intentions and have no choice but to repeatedly attempt to clarify what their position actually is and that they actually do not favor or defend the conditions and privileges in question. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The fine tuned individualist quite likely actually opposes the very same privileges and negative conditions that the collectivist or socialist does, only they approach it from a different angle and use different terminology. However, the general tendency in political discourse is for even these people to be attacked as if they defend such things, consequentially erecting a gigantic straw man of their position. They have no choice but to continually clarify that a genuinely free market, as they define and understand it, should not be conflated with the status quo. But the naive socialist or collectivist types continue to mistakenly act as if laissez-faire is the status quo, and hence continues to point the finger at all laissez-faire advocates to blame them for the status quo, which becomes a propaganda tool. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Those who identify as capitalist or individualist tend to think that socialism is an inherently authoritarian system that creatives negative conditions and special privileges. From their perspective, socialists merely engage in apologetics for government controls on people&amp;#39;s private lives. Socialism and government control are essentially the same thing in their worldview. Thus, anyone identifying as socialist is assumed to be defending such government controls. As a consequence, they may tend to bait those who identify as socialist or collectivist into defending such things, including the dictatorships and violent actions that have been perpetuated in the name of socialism or collectivism. Furthermore, any attempt to create a link between socialism and libertarianism is viewed as a contradiction in terms, and thus those who do flirt with such a combination are demonized. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In response to such attacks, those who identify as socialist or collectivist tend to function in a number of ways. Some of them truly are apologists for virtual absolute government control and historical acts of overt violence perpetuated in the name of socialism, and thus they don&amp;#39;t even need to be baited into playing such a role. Others do not necessarily have such intentions but nonetheless allow themselves to be baited on and off into playing such a role. And still yet others have no such intentions and have no choice but to repeatedly attempt to clarify what their position actually is and that they actually do not favor government control or any kind of overt violence. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The fine tuned collectivist quite likely actually opposes the very same government control and overt violence that the capitalist or individualist does, only they approach it from a different angle and use different terminology. However, the general tendency in political discourse is for even these people to be attacked as if they defend such things, consequentially erecting a gigantic straw man of their position. They have no choice but to continually clarify that a genuinely socialistic society, as they define and understand it, should not be conflated with the status quo or much of anything that most people would call socialism in name. But the partisan capitalist and vulgar libertarian types continues to point the finger at all socialists or collectivists to blame them for the status quo and accuse them advocating a return to the same methods that the Soviet Union used, which becomes a propaganda tool. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What one finds interesting upon a nuanced analysis is that the most honest and honorable people from both of the capitalistic and socialistic camps tend to overlap in their desired ends. They actually share many goals, such as the improvement of living standards for the masses, general prosperity, peace and cooperation. But the warped nature of the contemporary political spectrum has skewed and polarized their associations and alliances, pitting them against eachother while pushing them into alliances with groups that theoretically are their political enemies. Thus we free market libertarians allying with conservatives and libertarian socialists allying with marxists and leninists. And we see libertarian socialists spending more time on propaganda campaigns against market anarchists than they spend critisizing authoritarian socialists and actual conservatives. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When the semantic ambiguities and partisan misunderstandings are whittled away, what one is left with is mostly a diverse group of people with commonly good intentons who happen to use entirely different terminology and conceptual angles to describe, support and oppose what is practically the exact same set of things, and beyond this it boils down to little more than a matter of personal preferance. They&amp;#39;re all opposed to the status quo and the negative conditions and special privileges that are associated with it. The concepts and systems that they use to describe what they support and oppose varies, but the essential content of the matter is surpisingly similar. This is not necessarily to say that they are completely identical, but by the very least they are nowhere near as far apart as the semantics and contemporary politics involved would suggest. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=50550" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Anarchism/default.aspx">Anarchism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Collectivism/default.aspx">Collectivism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Capitalism/default.aspx">Capitalism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Socialism/default.aspx">Socialism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Libertarianism/default.aspx">Libertarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Economics/default.aspx">Economics</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Vulgar+Libertarianism/default.aspx">Vulgar Libertarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Anarcho-Capitalism/default.aspx">Anarcho-Capitalism</category></item><item><title>False Realism and Utopianism </title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/06/25/false-realism-and-utopianism.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:26:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:39208</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>7</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=39208</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=39208</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/06/25/false-realism-and-utopianism.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;Conservatism is a defense of the existing order or past existing orders&amp;nbsp;as &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot;. Any potential alternative to the existing order or to the romantisized past order&amp;nbsp;is immediately brushed aside as &amp;quot;unnatural&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;utopian&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;idealistic&amp;quot;. In the conservative view, all existing inequalities are &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; in a sort of deterministic sense. The conservative strongly emphasizes nature over nurture to explain and&amp;nbsp;defend currently existing or past existing conditions. On the other hand, utopian left-wing ideologies such as Marxism strongly emphasize nurture over nature and hence attribute&amp;nbsp;the vast majority&amp;nbsp;if not all currently existing conditions and inequalities&amp;nbsp;to political, economic and cultural influences in a deterministic sense. Nothing short of a significant transformation in human nature can possibly obtain the ultimate end sought of a purely egalitarian society, and the desirability&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;implications of&amp;nbsp;such a purely egalitarian society is alarmingly&amp;nbsp;questionable upon reasonable reflection.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The conservative errs in considering the existing order or past orders to be inevitable into the future or that they can possibly sustain themselves perpetually. They tend to&amp;nbsp;ignore the extent to which inequalities are the effect of influences such as state intervention and&amp;nbsp;bureaucracy. The conservative tends to defend the unequitable effects of state intervention as if they came about naturally on the free market, and therefore concludes that currently existing disparaties between various groups of people are both inevitable and justified. When anyone proposes or attempts to change such conditions or the existing order in general in a significant way, the status quo is defended by the conservative. The conservative has little to no concept of the dynamic nature of society over time and fails to see the potential changes that can be made and&amp;nbsp;the advantages that can be reaped. Conservatism can be seen as a very pessemistic view in a sense, particularly pessemistic towards the future. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The marxist engages in the opposite error. They blame all existing inequalities and negative conditions on the non-existant free market and then arbitrarily proclaim that it&amp;#39;s just a phase of history that will inevitably be surpassed by a&amp;nbsp;collectivistic utopia, if only all the workers magically take over the state and somehow voluntarily dissolve it. The marxist does not recognize the degree to which state intervention is the primary cause or enabler of the inequities that they have so much distain for. They put themselves foreward as being proponents of change in the right direction, but what they ultimately have to offer is more of the same: state intervention and centralization. The actual cause of the problems which they aim to solve is precisely what they propose as a solution, and therefore their &amp;quot;change&amp;quot; isn&amp;#39;t a meaningful or beneficial one. They propose what in some ways amounts to an authoritarian heirarchy as the solution to authoritarian heirarchy or dictatorship as a solution to dictatorship.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The distinction between and reliance upon nature and nurture is often a false dichotomy. That which involves human influence&amp;nbsp;is often characterized as &amp;quot;nurture&amp;quot;, yet human beings are a part and product of &amp;quot;nature&amp;quot;. The real question is a matter of which particular parts or aspects of &amp;quot;nature&amp;quot; are influencing other particular parts or aspects of &amp;quot;nature&amp;quot;. There are some issues with the use of the term &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; to begin with. In a certain sense, everything and whatever the current state of affairs happens to be is &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot;. The only alternative to something being &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; would be for it to not exist, unless of course one is&amp;nbsp;proposing that there is&amp;nbsp;some kind of supernatural realm which would still&amp;nbsp;ultimately reduce to non-existance. That being said, it is&amp;nbsp;definitely nonsensical to consider all present conditions and all present forms of organization to be inevitable and a permanent state of affairs. Stasis is not &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot;. Organizations and organizational forms are never permanent in the grand scheme of things, so it would be more genuinely &amp;quot;realistic&amp;quot; to propose that the eventual dissolution of the existing order&amp;nbsp;is &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; and inevitable at some point. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While the conservative puts themselves foreward as a realist, they are truly nothing but a proponent of either stasis or &amp;quot;turning back the clock&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;the good old days&amp;quot;, which becomes their own romantic utopia. The extent to which they see current affairs as moving in an &amp;quot;unnatural&amp;quot; direction causes&amp;nbsp;them to&amp;nbsp;become reactionaries, desparately trying to cling on to old traditions. On the other hand, the marxist sees&amp;nbsp;the present as&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;unnatural&amp;quot; and proclaims an inevitable utopian future to be a &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; progression. They&amp;#39;ve drawn erroneous conclusions from the basis of the hegelian dialectic, philosophy of history&amp;nbsp;and social evolutionary theory. Both involve the bastardization and politicization of science as a handy rhetorical authority and a&amp;nbsp;misguided appeal to either nature or nurture. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=39208" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Determinism/default.aspx">Determinism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Collectivism/default.aspx">Collectivism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Social+Evolution/default.aspx">Social Evolution</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Equality/default.aspx">Equality</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Philosophy/default.aspx">Philosophy</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Human+Nature/default.aspx">Human Nature</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/conservatism/default.aspx">conservatism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/History/default.aspx">History</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Vulgar+Libertarianism/default.aspx">Vulgar Libertarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Marxism/default.aspx">Marxism</category></item></channel></rss>