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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://mises.org/Community/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Brainpolice : Libertarianism, Corporatism</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Libertarianism/Corporatism/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: Libertarianism, Corporatism</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>The Nail in the Coffin of "The Right"</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/04/25/the-nail-in-the-coffin-of-quot-the-right-quot.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:54:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:29213</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>5</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=29213</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=29213</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/04/25/the-nail-in-the-coffin-of-quot-the-right-quot.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;It is common for many libertarians, especially those in America, to assume that they have a natural alliance with &amp;quot;the right&amp;quot;. This is based on certain assumptions, such as the notion that contemporary libertarianism grew out of the old American conservative movement and that &amp;quot;the right&amp;quot; is generally supportive of less government and more&amp;nbsp;free markets in comparison to &amp;quot;the left&amp;quot;. In short, the libertarian who makes such assumptions is at least partially buying into the way in which the political spectrum is typically framed in contemporary public discourse, with &amp;quot;the right&amp;quot; standing for less and less government control and &amp;quot;the left&amp;quot; standing for more and more government control, with &amp;quot;the left&amp;quot; standing for collectivism and communism and &amp;quot;the right&amp;quot; standing for individualism and capitalism.&amp;nbsp;One would think that the libertarian&amp;nbsp;should know better than to buy into this false dichotomy. It eradicates all nuances. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I find&amp;nbsp;such assumptions to be mistaken for a number of reasons. In historical terms, libertarianism predates the existance of contemporary American conservatism altogether and the term &amp;quot;libertarian&amp;quot; itself actually derives from certain socialists from the 19th century. And, the term libertarian&amp;nbsp;itself aside, the bulk of those who are considered to be the forefathers of libertarian ideas were originally considered to be on &amp;quot;the left&amp;quot;, including free market proponents. Furthermore, it seems to me to be the case that the bulk of self-identified &amp;quot;rightists&amp;quot; do not actually support a free market or any consistant philosophy of individualism. I see no serious compelling reason to assume that &amp;quot;the right&amp;quot; necessarily supports state power any less than &amp;quot;the left&amp;quot;. Conservative devotion to individualism and free markets is largely rhetorical, not substantive. These are campaign slogans, not seriously or consistantly held&amp;nbsp;philosophical positions. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If viewed in terms of the original meaning of the left-right political spectrum, the meaning that&amp;nbsp;it had&amp;nbsp;centuries ago, libertarians are actually on the &amp;quot;far left&amp;quot; while the conservatives are on &amp;quot;the far right&amp;quot;. For the left originally was supposed to represent anti-authoritarianism, anti-statism and&amp;nbsp;revolution, &amp;nbsp;while the right was supposed to represent the status quo, the oligarchy and reactionaries. Taken in its original context, conservatism has always been the polar opposite of libertarianism or liberalism. Libertarians are often mislead by the modern assumption that &amp;quot;the left&amp;quot; is necessarily in favor of statism and opposed to free economic interaction. Since this is assumed about &amp;quot;the left&amp;quot;, the libertarian may make the mistake of then concluding that &amp;quot;the right&amp;quot; is therefore their natural home on the political spectrum. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But what does &amp;quot;the right&amp;quot; of today really stand for? Not to make too hasty of a generalization, as a &amp;quot;rightist&amp;quot; may not necessarily support all of these things, but here&amp;#39;s what immediately comes to mind: corporatism, protectionism, monarchy, theocracy, traditionalism,&amp;nbsp;militarism, nationalism and&amp;nbsp;racism. It is important to note that all of these things were strongly opposed by historical libertarians and classical liberals to varying degrees. Classical liberals tended to be cosmopolitans in their worldview, and&amp;nbsp;therefore nationalism does not jibe very well with such a philosophy. They also respresented a radical divergence from past political traditions, which implies an opposition to monarchy and&amp;nbsp;theocracy. And there was always a strong opposition to war and imperialism&amp;nbsp;within the old libertarian&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;left&amp;quot;. Furthermore, obviously any sensible understanding of free market economics would lead one to oppose protectionism and corporatism. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why do I identify &amp;quot;the right&amp;quot; with these traits? Because as far as I can tell such traits are implicit in their own rhetoric and in the substantive content of their policy positions. Obviously I do not mean to lump all &amp;quot;rightists&amp;quot; together into one arbitrary camp, as there are different factions within the contemporary conservative movement. But each faction represents some selection among the listed traits. Neoconservatives tend to support corporatism and militarism. Paleoconservatives tend to&amp;nbsp;support protectionism, nationalism and traditionalism. The Christian right tends to support theocracy. Furthermore, despite quibbles among different factions of conservatives, they all are united by an irrationalist opposition to anything that is considered to be part of &amp;quot;the left&amp;quot;.&amp;nbsp;When it comes down to it, many conservatives are willing to set aside their differences&amp;nbsp;to function as&amp;nbsp;reactionaries to what they commonly oppose. Therefore anti-communism, anti-Islam, anti-multiculturalism&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;anti-secular&amp;nbsp;sentiments prevail. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The problem is that in the name of opposing such things, the conservative tends to enter into a desperate state in which they will support just about any means in the name of&amp;nbsp;defeating their common enemies. Thus, whatever&amp;nbsp;disposition they may have had towards restraint in political affairs is at least temporarily set aside. The communists, radical Islam, the secularists and multiculturalists must be defeated at all costs first - then, only when the enemies have been defeated,&amp;nbsp;we can worry about&amp;nbsp;restraining the government, freeing up the economy&amp;nbsp;and adhering to a non-interventionist foreign policy. But even when one&amp;nbsp;boogeyman is defeated, it usually is replaced with another one. Thus, when the Soviet Union fell and left a void of rationales for foreign policy interventions, radical Islam was then used as&amp;nbsp;the new&amp;nbsp;rationale.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Even if the conservative is somewhat or even entirely correct in opposing something, such as a communism, they may tend to make the mistake of going on to form or join equally dangerous reactionary movements and end up supporting other things that should merit opposition as well. In short, they fall into the trap of thinking that &amp;quot;the enemy of my enemy is my friend&amp;quot;. But it does not logically follow that since one opposes communism, one must join forces with the fascists. It does not logically follow that since one opposes social democracy, one must join forces with the monarchists. It does not logically follow that since one opposes the state&amp;#39;s discrimination laws, one must join forces with white nationalists. It does not logically follow that since one opposes government ownership of the means of production, one must indiscriminately support corporations. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The economic views of contemporary conservatism are also very warped. For the modern conservative does not support laissez-faire, but some form of a mixed economy or corporate state. Sure, the conservative&amp;#39;s rhetoric is often devoted to laissez-faire, but their support for &amp;quot;capitalism&amp;quot; is more often than not merely a knee-jerk apologia for current economic conditions, corporations and the rich, irrespective of wether or not it has anything to do with laissez-faire. In short, the contemporary conservative often ends up using the term &amp;quot;free market&amp;quot; to describe and legitimize&amp;nbsp;what we currently have. But we do not currently have a free market. The average conservative has not read Ludwig Von Mises or Frederic Bastiat. Their support for &amp;quot;capitalism&amp;quot; is more or less merely cultural, not an informed and substantive position. All they know is that they oppose &amp;quot;socialism&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;communism&amp;quot;, and &amp;quot;capitalism&amp;quot; is the opposite of those things, therefore they must support whatever &amp;quot;capitalism&amp;quot; is. But their &amp;quot;capitalism&amp;quot; happens to be either the status quo (or elements of it at least)&amp;nbsp;or some romantisized past utopia. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Since the conservative tends to conflate laissez-faire with corporatism or the effects of a mixed corporatist economy&amp;nbsp;with &amp;quot;the free market&amp;quot;, actual consistant proponents of laissez-faire may actually be demonized and brushed aside as being &amp;quot;socialists&amp;quot;, since a consistant adherance to laissez-faire would naturally lead one to oppose corporatism. The conservative loves to see red where it does not really exist, therefore going on red-baiting witch hunts. The conservative may see red in positions that don&amp;#39;t necessarily have anything to do with being a communist, such as opposition to political borders and support for multiculturalism. They accept an absurd false dichotomy: either you support the conservative agenda or you are a &amp;quot;far leftist&amp;quot;. A &amp;quot;far leftist&amp;quot; is defined&amp;nbsp;quite simply as&amp;nbsp;anyone who disagrees with the conservative to any significant extent. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While there certainly are conservative intellectuals, the average conservative does not derive their&amp;nbsp;position from any serious study of philosophy, economics or history. They derive their position from the media, their parents&amp;nbsp;and cultural cliches. They are brought up to believe that whatever the conservative establishment happens to be supporting equates to small government, free markets and&amp;nbsp;individualism - and that everyone and everything&amp;nbsp;else is more or less a representation of big bad communism and &amp;quot;big government&amp;quot;. In contemporary politics, conservatism has more to do with one&amp;#39;s cultural preferances than any half-seriously thought out political philosophy. Dimwitted talkings heads such as Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter determines the conservative&amp;#39;s views rather than anything remotely resembling a rational thought process.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What does the libertarian truly have in common with the contemporary right? In my estimation, very little. What they have in common is a matter of rhetoric and to some limited degree over what they are opposed to. But the libertarian ultimately has no compelling reason to support what the contemporary right does. For the contemporary right is largely a reactionary statist movement. Figures such as Ronald Reagen and Pat Buchannan are not particularly libertarian, despite any correct positions they may hold to on certain individual issues. Contemporary conservatism is just another brand of statism. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=29213" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Racism/default.aspx">Racism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Collectivism/default.aspx">Collectivism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Religion/default.aspx">Religion</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Capitalism/default.aspx">Capitalism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Socialism/default.aspx">Socialism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Libertarianism/default.aspx">Libertarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Economics/default.aspx">Economics</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Philosophy/default.aspx">Philosophy</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/conservatism/default.aspx">conservatism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Corporatism/default.aspx">Corporatism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/liberalism/default.aspx">liberalism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Nationalism/default.aspx">Nationalism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/History/default.aspx">History</category></item><item><title>The Anarcho-Statists</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/04/17/the-anarcho-statists.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:46:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:27588</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>14</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=27588</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=27588</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/04/17/the-anarcho-statists.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;For quite some time now, Kevin Carson has critisized what he calls &amp;quot;vulgar libertarianism&amp;quot;. Vulgar libertarian is a tendency of some libertarians, particularly those with an affinity for &amp;quot;the right&amp;quot;, to function as apologists for currently existing economic conditions and corporations as if they came about as the result of &amp;quot;the free market&amp;quot; and even outright advocate statist policies in the name of &amp;quot;the free market&amp;quot;. In short, they defend the effects of corporatism in the name of &amp;quot;the free market&amp;quot;. For the most part, I find Carson&amp;#39;s criticisms in this regaurd to be fairly spot on. Vulgar libertarianism is indeed a considerable problem.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;However, there is another tendency displayed by some of the libertarian &amp;quot;left&amp;quot; that sort of runs in the other direction. If the vulgar libertarian could be said to concentrate on anti-statism and anti-socialism while ignoring the problems of corporatism and non-governmental forms of exploitation (or making apologetics for the results of the corporatist economy), a significant portion of social anarchists would appear to display the opposite problem: they concentrate so much on anti-capitalism that they start to neglect the problem of statism and function as a apologists for state-socialism. In short, they underemphasize and seem blind to the degree of power that the state has and how it effects matters.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;While the vulgar libertarian functions as an apologist for gigantic corporations, the virtuently anti-capitalist libertarian functions as an apologist for state bereaucracies and coercive labor unions. Indeed, much of the valid complaints that the libertarian left makes about the modern chartered corporation applies just as much so to modern chartered unions. For the most part, modern unions are by no means free associations. They are cartels with government privileges and they function much like corporations (even with mergers). This is a problem that particularly applies to anarcho-syndicalists, who envision unions as their main strategic means to bringing about a free society. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;But the problem cuts much deeper than coercive unions. For while the virulent social anarchist opposes what they see as being &amp;quot;private tyrannies&amp;quot;, a temptation arises to view the state as a more benevolent alternative. The prospect that the state&amp;#39;s intervention itself brought about such &amp;quot;private tyrannies&amp;quot; to begin with seems dim or unfathomable to some social anarchists. Instead, they tend to see it as an inevitable result of the market itself. Consequentially, it would appear that they can only turn to the state to crack down on the allegedly private sector created problems. The state appears to be a balancing force that can potentially help alleviate &amp;quot;private tyranny&amp;quot;. To these people, government provided goods and services is seen as preferable in comparison to private or corporate provision.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Due to this confusion, some social anarchists are actually functioning as state-socialists in disguise. I have seen this myself first-hand. They will defend blatantly statist ideas and policies such as national healthcare, the minimum wage, anti-trust and personal welfare. They are essentially duped by the populist rhetoric behind such policies that panders to sentiments of empathy towards the poor and needy (and derision towards the wealthy and powerful). They fail to see how, if anything, these policies are substantively more corporatist than not. And they fail to see how such interventions would blatantly contradict anarchism. Such policies are supported in the name of alleviating conditions that are thought of as being the inevitable result of private property and the market economy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;If all of the problems in society are blamed entirely on private property and the profit motive, it is easy to see why one would tend to view state intervention (backed up by egalitarian rhetoric) as a solution or &amp;quot;lesser evil&amp;quot;. But an informed social anarchist should know better than to overlook the institutional role of the state in such problems, let alone see the state as a solution. They should not accept the false choice between state tyranny and private tyranny, or between state-socialism and corporatism. Opposition to corporatism should not blind one to the evils of the state apparatus itself. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;In order to have a more sound view of matters, the social anarchist should temper or modify their position in certain ways. For one thing, they should aschew the Marxist class analysis, which largely neglects the role of the state in class conflict (as well as the role of the enterprenuer in an economy). Furthermore, they should have a better understanding of how modern welfare states formed on the behalf of big buisiness with the purpose of cartelizing economies. They need to understand how government intervention in an economy creates the conditions they abhor and benefits the private groups that they despise. Otherwise, there will be an overwhelming tendency to drift towards state-socialism.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=27588" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Anarchism/default.aspx">Anarchism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Socialism/default.aspx">Socialism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Libertarianism/default.aspx">Libertarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Economics/default.aspx">Economics</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Corporatism/default.aspx">Corporatism</category></item><item><title>A Left-Rothbardian Approach To "Privatization"</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/04/04/a-left-rothbardian-approach-to-quot-privatization-quot.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:29:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:25443</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>112</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=25443</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=25443</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/04/04/a-left-rothbardian-approach-to-quot-privatization-quot.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;What exactly does it mean to &amp;quot;privatize&amp;quot; a service or industry? &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a class="null" title="As I have discussed before" href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/03/04/quot-private-quot-and-quot-public-quot-are-misleading-terms.aspx" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#003399" size="2"&gt;As I have argued before&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;, there is a lot of confusion over the precise meaning of the&amp;nbsp;terms &amp;quot;public&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;private&amp;quot; to begin with. The fact that state-controled property is called &amp;quot;public&amp;quot; is misleading because it obviously is not actually controled by the public in any real sense. The public bears the costs for its maintance, but they do not actually&amp;nbsp;have any&amp;nbsp;control over it in a way that a real owner would. The public is of course&amp;nbsp;nothing but a term representing the accumulation of private individuals. Fundamentally, the purpose of &amp;quot;privatization&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp;is to&amp;nbsp;transfer ownership or control over a given piece of property or service from the state to private individuals.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;The question inevitably arises over how exactly to go about doing this. The typical proposal for privatization is more or less to sell it to the highest bidder, which predictably is going to be a large corporation, probably one that already is in bed with the state to begin with. From a libertarian perspective, this is problematic for a number of reasons. First and foremost, the state is not a legitimate owner of the property to begin with, so how can it sell &amp;quot;its&amp;quot; property? The state, at least by Rothbardian standards of property ownership, is a criminal&amp;nbsp;organization because&amp;nbsp;state controlled property is stolen property. Proposing that the state sell off the property it controls would be no different than proposing that a thief sell off the property that they stole. But this would be to propose that the thief deserves compensation rather than their victims. To ignore this analogy would be to treat the state as if it were a legitimate private property owner, which it isn’t according to any sensible libertarian understanding of the institution. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;Furthermore, the ability to buy property off of the state in this scenario would be quite an exclusive privilege only available to a select set of private interests that already are in patronage with the state. The masses at large do not have the ability to be in patronage with the state in this way, nor could they afford it even if they had such access to the institution. This could be seen as&amp;nbsp;constituting a barrier to entry for most people, as only a handful of private elites are allowed to have access to such patronage. In selling an entire industry or swath of property&amp;nbsp;to one particular private group or corporation, power has merely been transfered from one singular central institution to another. While this might not necessarily qualify as a monopoly under the Austrian definition of a monopoly, it most certainly is centralized and the institution or private group in question most certainly is privileged. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;That wild eyed communist Murray Rothbard once suggested a very radical alternative to this method. While Rothbard grew more conservative as he aged, in my view he was in his prime in the late 60’s and early 70’s. It is well known that he was more closely allied with the libertarian &amp;quot;left&amp;quot; during this period. It is also well known that he later abandoned this alliance due to the increasingly irrationalist tendencies in organizations such as Students For A Democratic Society. Nonetheless, the position he advocated at the time amounts to the idea that state controlled property and state run services are homesteadable as if they currently have no legitimate owner. In particular, Rothbard outlined this position in a 1969 issue of&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;The Libertarian Forum&amp;quot; titled &amp;quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;a class="null" title="Confiscation and the Homestead Principle" href="http://www.mises.org/journals/lf/1969/1969_06_15.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#003399" size="2"&gt;Confiscation and the Homestead Principle&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;&amp;quot;. In the article, Rothbard states the following:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="PADDING-LEFT:30px;"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;&amp;quot;Let us now apply our libertarian theory of property to the case of property in the hands&lt;b&gt; &lt;/b&gt;of, or derived from, the State apparatus. The libertarian sees the State as a giant gang of organized criminals, who live off the theft called &amp;quot;taxation&amp;quot; and use the proceeds to kill, enslave, and generally push people around. Therefore, any property in the hands of the State is in the hands of thieves, and should be liberated as quickly as possible. &lt;i&gt;Any &lt;/i&gt;person or group who liberates such property, who confiscates or appropriates it from the State, is performing a virtuous act and a signal service to the cause of liberty. In the case of the State, furthermore, the victim&amp;nbsp;is not readily identifiable as B, the horse-owner. All taxpayers, all draftees, all victims of the State have been mulcted. How to go about returning all this property to the taxpayers? What proportions should be used in this terrific tangle of robbery and injustice that we have all suffered at the hands of the State? Often, the most practical method of de-statizing is simply to grant the moral right of ownership&amp;nbsp;on the person or group who seizes the property from the State. Of this group, the most morally deserving are the ones who are already using the property but who have no moral complicity in the State’s act of aggression. These people then become the homesteaders of the stolen property and hence the rightful owners.&amp;quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;It is no wonder why he was red baited by conservatives. Rothbard goes on to illustrate an example in the case of state run universities:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p style="PADDING-LEFT:30px;" align="left"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;&amp;quot;Take, for example, the State universities. This is property built on funds stolen from the taxpayers. Since the State has not found or put into effect a way of returning ownership of this property to the taxpaying public, the proper owners of this university are the &amp;quot;homesteaders&amp;quot;, those who have already been using and therefore &amp;quot;mixing their labor&amp;quot; with the facilities. The prime consideration is to deprive the thief, in this case the State, as quickly as possible of the ownership and control of its ill-gotten gains, to return the property to the innocent, private sector. This means student and/or faculty ownership of the universities. As between the two groups, the students have a prior claim, for the students have been paying at least some amount to support the university whereas the faculty suffer from the moral taint of living off State funds and thereby becoming to some extent a part of the State apparatus.&amp;quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;In his comment that the state has not found or put into effect a way of returning ownersip of this property to the taxpayers, Rothbard briefly touches on an interesting practical problem. While we have clearly identified some problems with treating the state as if it were the legitimate private property of those who make it up, one could also put foreward the notion that the state is the common property of the tax-payers. But while the taxpayers have clearly been stolen from, there is no sensible way to proportionally&amp;nbsp;redistribute this property back to them, especially considering that it has been redistributed in an endless web so many times over and over such a long period of time that original ownership would be virtually impossible to precisely identify.&amp;nbsp;If anything, the attempt to&amp;nbsp;redistribute in this way&amp;nbsp;would probably end up being a great big welfare scheme, and in practise certain special interests would win out over others. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;So we return to the glaring fact that there currently is no discernable just owner of the property. The state obviously must be ruled out as being a just owner because it constitutes nothing more than a band of criminals who stole it to begin with. And while the hapless tax-payers were the original just owners, it is practically impossible to reallocate it back to them in proportion to what was originally stolen from them. So if the state can neither be treated as if it were the private property of its members or as if it were&amp;nbsp;the common property of the tax-payer, it would seem that the only logical option left is to treat it as currently having no legitimate owner and being open to appropriation by either those non-criminals&amp;nbsp;who exercise their labor over it or the first people to appropriate it for themselves. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;This has rather profound implications relating to the question of how to transition to a stateless society. At least for the market anarchist, the point is to &amp;quot;privatize&amp;quot; literally everything that the state controls, from the mundane to the fundamentals of the provision of defense and arbitration. But instead of the idea of the state &amp;quot;selling&amp;quot; itself to the highest bidder or a singular private entity, which would seem to be a potential recipe for disaster if not the formation of another state, the idea should be to effectively &amp;quot;homestead the state&amp;quot;. This would obviously include government claimed&amp;nbsp;land, and of course the state is defined by its territorial dominion. The portions that are currently entirely unused or vacant would either remain that way or start to be homesteaded by original appropriators, and the portions that are directly controled by the state would be appropriated by those non-criminals&amp;nbsp;who labor upon it and the first users. The state would essentially be absorbed by the economic organism. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=25443" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Anarchism/default.aspx">Anarchism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Taxation/default.aspx">Taxation</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Patronage/default.aspx">Patronage</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Libertarianism/default.aspx">Libertarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Corporatism/default.aspx">Corporatism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Labor/default.aspx">Labor</category></item></channel></rss>