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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://mises.org/Community/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Brainpolice : Human Nature, Ethics</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Human+Nature/Ethics/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: Human Nature, Ethics</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>Is self-ownership a misnomer?</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/09/16/is-self-ownership-a-misnomer.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:47:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:51838</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>10</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=51838</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=51838</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/09/16/is-self-ownership-a-misnomer.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If something is owned, then by definition there is something external to it that is doing the owning. Likewise, something that is owned is by definition something external to the agent that owns it. Taking this very basic point into account, does it really make that much sense to think in terms of &amp;quot;self-ownership&amp;quot;? For if the self is something that is owned, then it is being owned by something or someone else. So then what is this entity that owns us and yet is us at the same time? Surely if it owns us then it is not us, or if we own the thing in question then it is not us?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In short, we run into the problem of creating a metaphysical duality in which the self is split into an essential and unessential self or a dominant and passive self in which the body is merely something that is inhabited by a &amp;quot;soul&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;spirit&amp;quot;. One way of trying to get out of this problem would be to sever this duality into two separate entities, although the problem of explaining the existance and nature of this immaterial &amp;quot;soul&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;spirit&amp;quot; would remain. Another way of getting out of this problem would be to disregaurd the &amp;quot;soul&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;spirit&amp;quot; as a floating abstraction and to consequentially recognize the actual self as a coherant whole, devoid of any dominating metaphysical entity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The idea of an external metaphysical entity that owns oneself renders the individual into nothing more than the slave of an abstraction, for their actual material being is placed into a submissive position in relation to this metaphysical entity or this particular manifestation of it. Individual autonomy and self-realization can actually be said to come under threat as a result of such a concept. In reality, this abstract metaphysical self functions as a false identity and implies some sort of internal struggle. Such an internal struggle can only be avoided by casting out or denying such a metaphysical duality to begin with, at which point the actual self can be meaningfully recognized and rights can be meaningfully derived. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;None of this is being said to belittle the importance of individual sovereignty, but rather it is being said to save it from internal disintegration, while avoiding the problem of solipsism at the same time. This is a rather simple matter of recognizing the distinction between one&amp;#39;s actual self and that which is either external to oneself or non-existant to begin with. If such a distinction is not made, then there will forevermore be a confusing haze with respect to discussions about rights and their derivation. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=51838" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Objectivism/default.aspx">Objectivism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Ethics/default.aspx">Ethics</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Rational+Egoism/default.aspx">Rational Egoism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Individual+Sovereignty/default.aspx">Individual Sovereignty</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Natural+Rights/default.aspx">Natural Rights</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Libertarianism/default.aspx">Libertarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Philosophy/default.aspx">Philosophy</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Human+Nature/default.aspx">Human Nature</category></item><item><title>Morality, Rationality, Survival and the Law</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/06/03/morality-rationality-survival-and-the-law.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:27:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:36035</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>1377</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=36035</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=36035</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/06/03/morality-rationality-survival-and-the-law.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;I was having a bit of a debate with an Objectivist and we got into some questions about morality and&amp;nbsp;rationality. It related to the question of suicide, and I maintained that suicide is irrational but not immoral and that the individual has the liberty to commit such an irrational act. The Objectivist asserted that&amp;nbsp;irrationality is immorality. This doesn&amp;#39;t make any sense to me. I&amp;#39;d say that what is moral is inherently rational, but not that what is rational is inherently moral. Likewise, I&amp;#39;d say that what is immoral is inherently irrational, but not that what is irrational is inherently immoral. This is not a paradox when one makes a proper distinction between a vice and a crime or between that which is&amp;nbsp;unethical and that which is&amp;nbsp;merely incorrect or counterproductive. A meaningful distinction between ethics and aesthetics also helps clear up any confusion in this regaurd. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Consider the implications of combining the two premises that (1) that which is irrational is inherently immoral and (2) the law should reflect morality. I can think of endless things that are irrational and harmless to others in and of themselves that should consequentially be viewed as &amp;quot;immoral&amp;quot; and be outlawed under this logic: suicide, not taking a shower, not brushing your teeth, discrimating based solely or primarily on the basis of race, to continue to associate with people who hurt or manipulate you, to smoke cigarettes and do hard drugs, to pray, to go to church, to stay up for 3 days, to starve yourself, to bite your nails, to have promiscous sex with strangers,&amp;nbsp;to have a high time preference,&amp;nbsp;to not take care of one&amp;#39;s own property,&amp;nbsp;to not defend oneself and to be boistrous and loud. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All of these things are irrational and many of them are&amp;nbsp;unconductive to either the quality of one&amp;#39;s life or its continued existance, but I consider none of them to be immoral and think that all of them should be permissible and&amp;nbsp;legal. It&amp;#39;s not conductive to certain ends for me to buy certain products or patronize certain service providers over other ones. It&amp;#39;s not conductive to my long-term economic security to borrow and spend lots of money and not save. It&amp;#39;s not conductive to my long-term health to eat a certain way. But am I &amp;quot;immoral&amp;quot; for making a mistake in judgement or for merely being stupid or for having aesthetic tastes? That&amp;#39;s absurd. It&amp;#39;s not &amp;quot;immoral&amp;quot; for me to make bad financial decisions or have bad eating habits. The expression of aesthetic tastes in general could be viewed as irrational. There is no rational way to justify the notion that someone has an obligation to make a certain aesthetic choice because it happens to be the most efficient towards survival or happiness or prosperity, and in the case of happiness there is no way to determine what will make someone else happy. The logical end of this kind of thinking would seem to lead to the legislation of economic preferances in the name of utility. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One might object to this reductio as absurdum by trying to make a distinction between the law and morality, by positing that the law doesn&amp;#39;t have to reflect or be in accordance with morality, but one can only do so by opening up a pandora&amp;#39;s box of inconsistancy and accepting the evils of legal positivism.&amp;nbsp;This view&amp;nbsp;holds the law to be above morality and consequentially functions as a way to make moral inconsistancies and acceptions.&amp;nbsp;The inevitable consequence of taking this view is that&amp;nbsp;the law is quite blatantly turned into a&amp;nbsp;instrument of immorality. Using such an approach to politics, things that are immoral can be legitimized by merely appealing to its legality. Natural law, in contrast, holds the currently existing and positive law up to an independant standard of justice, derived from reason. Notice that rationality does play a role, but the natural law follows from morality. It&amp;#39;s not the case that everything that is rational is moral and everything that is irrational is immoral. Rationality in this context is only an instrumental&amp;nbsp;tool that is used to figure out what is moral and immoral. But it does not follow that everything that is a product of rationality is moral or that all irrational&amp;nbsp;actions are immoral actions. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rationality can point one to the most efficient means at achieving a desired end and it can point one to the most moral means to a desired end&amp;nbsp;(and the two aren&amp;#39;t necessarily always the same thing), but not all questions of persueing desired ends are moral questions. That&amp;#39;s the problem. Rationality can suggest that engaging in cooperative industrial production is more efficient to my survival and general well-being to being a hunter-gatherer, but it does not follow that I have a moral obligation to choose the more efficient means. I would assert that one has the liberty to go live as a hunter-gatherer, even if it is self-destructive or nowhere near as beneficial as the alternatives, and hence there is no real moral obligation to choose to engage in industrial production.&amp;nbsp;The question of whether to live as a&amp;nbsp;hunter-gatherer or as an industrial worker or producer is&amp;nbsp;morally irrelevant in and of itself. From my perspective, regaurdless of the utility towards life and prosperity of the choices in question, the individual essentially has free reign to choose whichever alternative they want so long as they aren&amp;#39;t violating any ethical or metaethical principles in the process, so long as they don&amp;#39;t force anyone else to pursue or not pursue a particular option. These become questions of personal preferance, regaurdless of any objective concerns about their utility. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It seems to me that Objectivists rely too much on the concept of survival in their ethics, which makes it take a sort of utilitarian turn. They use survival, or more broadly the achievement of desires necessary to fullfil the necessities of life, as the primarily justification for actions. That is, Objectivists essentially conclude that because liberty is necessary for survival and the achievement of certain virtues or benefits (such as happiness, prosperity and&amp;nbsp;healthiness), liberty is justified because it leads to those things. However, there are some problems with this view. While liberty is a necessary condition for survival and flourishing, it&amp;nbsp;does not gaurantee it. Someone could theoretically be perfectly free and not violate anyone else&amp;#39;s rights yet be unhappy, unhealthy, uneducated&amp;nbsp;and have trouble surviving. So it seems far too demanding on people to proclaim that people have an obligation to do that which is necessary to survive and benefit themselves. People have the liberty to persue their survival and happiness, and it is in their rational self-interest to do so, but they have no such obligation to do so or to choose the most efficient&amp;nbsp;means to doing so. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, it is irrational to not persue the&amp;nbsp;continuance of one&amp;#39;s life&amp;nbsp;and improvements upon its quality. But to consider people &amp;quot;immoral&amp;quot; for not doing so or not adequately doing so seems ridiculous. It also seems to me that Objectivists extend ethics way beyond interpersonal relations and into the realm of purely personal decisions. But for me, ethics is interpersonal and&amp;nbsp;thus purely personal decisions are aesthetic at best. Such purely personal decisions can be objectively evaluated as being &amp;quot;good for you&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;bad for you&amp;quot;, but there is no way to genuinely make them obligatory or enforcable and an unobligatory and unenforcable ethics seems like no ethics at all. It makes no sense to proclaim that one has a moral obligation to pursue and fulfill their rational self-interest while simultaneously say that they are free to not fulfil the moral obligation. Since I think that people are free to harm themselves or to&amp;nbsp;make bad personal decisions, I have no choice but to consider such actions morally neutral at best. Otherwise, the implication would be that people should be legally required to eat healthy, raise their children in a right way, read the right books and conform to&amp;nbsp;an endless sea of requirements in their&amp;nbsp;personal preferances. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One might object that if what I&amp;#39;m implying is the case, then ethics wouldn&amp;#39;t apply to a lone man stranded on an island. My answer is: yes, ethics indeed doesn&amp;#39;t apply to a lone man stranded on an island, because ethics has no meaning in such a scenario. There&amp;#39;s no one else to steal from, murder, lie to, cheat, and so on. There&amp;#39;s noone else to violate the rights of. One could do all sorts of things to further one&amp;#39;s own survival and happiness, but morality wouldn&amp;#39;t really come into the picture until you start introducing interpersonal relations. The choice of a man stranded on an island &amp;quot;to hunt or not to hunt&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;what materials should I make my home with?&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp;has no moral significance. Such decisions are not moral decisions but purely practical ones. Morality would only come into place with such questions in terms of how it affects the rational self-interest of other people, in terms of whether&amp;nbsp;or not&amp;nbsp;the means one pursues in the persuit of such things&amp;nbsp;violate the life, liberty and property of others. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another problem with this erroneous conflation of rationality and morality is that it essentially implies that holding irrational thoughts is immoral in and of itself. Thought crimes! It&amp;nbsp;is of course&amp;nbsp;true and important to realize that ideas determine the course of history. But nonetheless it is ultimately the realization of those ideas, or at least the attempt to do so, and the means by which those ideas are implemented that is immoral. Merely believing in false or irrational ideas does not make someone immoral, and neither would they be immoral for pursueing, spreading and enacting&amp;nbsp;those ideas so long as it is on a voluntary basis. Stupidity and&amp;nbsp;ignorance is not immorality. Being misinformed or just flat out wrong&amp;nbsp;is not immoral in and of itself. Believing in communism or the flying spagetti monster is a vice, not an immorality. Forcing communism or the church of the flying spagetti monster onto people is what would be an immorality. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It seems to me that the moral of the story is that the fetishizing of the mind and survival leads to some absurd implications and conclusions if consistantly followed through. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=36035" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Objectivism/default.aspx">Objectivism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Ethics/default.aspx">Ethics</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Consistancy/default.aspx">Consistancy</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Utilitarianism/default.aspx">Utilitarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Aesthetics/default.aspx">Aesthetics</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Means+and+Ends/default.aspx">Means and Ends</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Philosophy/default.aspx">Philosophy</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Human+Nature/default.aspx">Human Nature</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Crime+and+Punishment/default.aspx">Crime and Punishment</category></item><item><title>Re: Moral vs Hierarchical obligations </title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/02/28/re-moral-vs-hierarchical-obligations.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:23:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:20317</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=20317</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=20317</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/02/28/re-moral-vs-hierarchical-obligations.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;The following is a response to this video &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoXjrlxDSL4"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoXjrlxDSL4&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dear Mr1001Nights,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unchosen positive obligations are indeed slavery, which should be obvious because the obligations are not chosen. In claiming or bestowing unchosen positive obligations onto other people, you are the authority that must face a burden of proof. The person who claims that others have unchosen positive obligations to them is the one who must prove that others owe some kind of debt to them. In the absence of any objectively definable debt previously accured, the claim is absolute hogwash. To claim an abstract positive right to the servitude of others is to claim authority over them by definition. By all accounts, someone who must fulfill unchosen positive obligations is engaging in involuntary servitude. Involuntary servitude is slavery. Who exactly will enforce these unchosen positive obligations? Obviously everyone is not going to just willingly fulfill them, and when we really start to think more deeply about it, it is impossible for everyone to universally fulfill such positive obligations due to geographical problems and the availability of resources. So some individual or body of men is going to have to enforce these positive obligations, especially for those who resist and refuse to fulfill them. Hence, your system already requires a heirarchy from the get go.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Positive and negative rights inherently contradict eachother because negative rights implies that one is free from unchosen positive obligations imposed by others. The only obligation they could be said to impose is for others to leave one alone. Positive rights bestow an obligation onto people to serve others. Positive rights lead to claims of entitlement to the labor of other people. The enforcement of positive rights onto someone who is unwilling to serve others inherently constitutes theft or extortion from that individual. If Joe has an abstract &amp;quot;right to food&amp;quot;, and Jack has food but doesn&amp;#39;t want to give it up, their in order for Joe&amp;#39;s alleged &amp;quot;right&amp;quot; to be fulfilled, either Joe himself or some agent or 3rd party acting on Joe&amp;#39;s behalf must confiscate the food from Jack. Jack has no choice not to serve Joe and pony up the good.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By all accounts, in the type of society envisoned by market anarchists, there is nothing to stop you from joining together with your fellows who all agree to such positive obligations and to form a community by which you all strive to fulfill them. This would be perfectly fine because all of the people involved actually chose the obligations and believe in them. On the other hand, if someone in this society decides that they no longer favor such obligations, and they do not have any debt withstanding, they are free to opt out of your community and flock elsewhere. I don&amp;#39;t know why it&amp;#39;s so hard for you to understand that your type of society is only one possibility out of many that may co-exist in an anarchy, not some monolithic model that everyone must abide by. Luke12000 and others have tried to point this out endlessly to no avail. There is no reason why your ideal society cannot exist as one option out of many within a larger framework. Market anarchists are not imposing their preferential society on you, so it would only make sense to mutually extend the same &amp;quot;tolerance&amp;quot; back in the other direction.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The problem with the wage slavery arguement is that it applies to any society no matter what system or lack thereof is in place. No matter what system is in place, including socialism, resources are still scarce and material well-being still requires labor. Things must be produced, they do not just fall down like mana from the sky. It is therefore disingenuous to imply that &amp;quot;work or starve&amp;quot; only applies to a so-called &amp;quot;capitalist&amp;quot; society when it still applies no matter what type of organization a society is constituted by. &amp;quot;Work or starve&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;act or die&amp;quot; is not a human created set of choices, it is imposed by the necessities of nature itself. Humans must act in order to achieve the ends they desire. No social or economic or political system can make it so that some kind of production is not required for survival and material well-being. Put frankly, people can&amp;#39;t just sit on their asses all day and expect to have prosperity and material wants, because these things must be produced. What system is in place is rather irrelevant to this fact. This reveals an interesting paradox: your ideal society can exist within a free market, but a free market cannot exist within your ideal society.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another part of the problem with the wage slavery arguement is that it uses a nonsensical definition of coercion. In my understanding, coercion requires human agency, usually realized as a threat of force. But the wage slavery arguement implies that someone taking no action at all, specifically someone simply not giving their stuff or a piece of it to someone else, &amp;quot;coerces&amp;quot; that person into an unwanted circumstance. Noone actually physically forced you to work. Noone actually imposed starvation on you through their human agency. The negative circumstances created by a lack of productive action is simply a fact of life. Production requires human cooperation. One is perfectly free not to cooperate and not to produce, but in the absence of any mechanism that forces them to not cooperate and not produce, the negative circumstances that may come about as a consequence of this is truly no fault but their own, or, put somewhat more lightly, outside of their control and imposed by the inadequacies of nature. In either case, the wage slavery arguement is nonsensical in that it equates the inedequacies of nature to coercion.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As far as the concept of solidarity goes, human beings inherently are not in a state of absolute solidarity. Rather, human beings are incredibly diverse. Each individual is unique unto themselves. Uniformity in traits and preferences runs contrary to how we work as human beings. People have their own identities as individuals and their own self-interest. Self-interest, however, does not negate all cooperation. To the contrary, as psychological egoism demonstrates quite well, people cooperate out of mutual self-interest. It is an error to assume that everyone&amp;#39;s self-interest inherently clashes at all times. It is in people&amp;#39;s rational self-interest to cooperate and associate with eachother and engage in a generally peaceful manner. What I see as being amazing about organic society is that cooperation flourishes despite people&amp;#39;s vast diversity and disagreement. An anarchist society is pluralist, not a uniform model for all of mankind. Market anarchism, when one actually understands it, is the exact same thing as anarchism without adjectives because it provides a framework by which multiple types of societies can co-exist. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Have a nice day. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=20317" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Anarchism/default.aspx">Anarchism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Ethics/default.aspx">Ethics</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Self-interest/default.aspx">Self-interest</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Rational+Egoism/default.aspx">Rational Egoism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Consent/default.aspx">Consent</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Slavery/default.aspx">Slavery</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Human+Nature/default.aspx">Human Nature</category></item><item><title>On Human Nature</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/01/02/on-human-nature.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 04:43:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:8447</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>11</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=8447</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=8447</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/01/02/on-human-nature.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;font size="2"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is common for humans to be presented as being separate from and even antagonistic with nature. In particular, some radical environmentalists portray human beings as inherently waging war on mother nature, that our existance is intrinsically destructive to nature. But this is erroneous. Humans are a product of and part of nature themselves. There is no separation between humans and nature in this sense. The ecosystem ultimately absorbs us back into it. It is a dynamic system. Whatever effects modern civilization has on the ecosystem are ultimately trivial. It will adapt to us and we will adapt to it. If anything, the relationship is symbiotic, not a one-way street. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A common idea, derived in part from Hobbes, is the notion that humans are inherently in a conflicting state of nature, and that we have developed the capacity to form &amp;quot;society&amp;quot; as to leave this state of nature and enter a state of civilization in which we interact for our mutual benefit. But in reality humans never leave a &amp;quot;state of nature&amp;quot;. We are always in one. The real question is &amp;quot;what will we make of this state of nature?&amp;quot;. Civilization is still a product of and a part of a state of nature. The notion that we have the power to overcome nature in this way is utopian in that it assumes that we can &amp;quot;plan&amp;quot; a change in our own basic natures. But no matter what form of social organization we opt for, human nature remains the same. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;The question as to wether humans are inherently good or inherently bad is a false dychotomy. Humans are inherently neither. What they are is inherently free, capable of choice. Wether or not they are good or bad can only be determined as a result of the choices that they voluntarily make. Humans are capable choosing both good and bad. Without choice, good and bad are meaningless as concepts, for we would be no more responsible for our actions than a rock falling down a cliff. Morality ceases to exist in the absence of choice. So both Hobbes and the uber-optimists are wrong. Humans are not naturally &amp;quot;war of all against all&amp;quot;, and neither are they naturally virtuous. They can only be virtuous as a result of their free choices. Man is a rational animal, meaning that we possess the capacity to choose either path. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Determinists, particularly biological determnists, seem to make the error of thinking that nature dominates humans in the absolute. Radical subjectivists seem to make the opposite mistake of thinking that humans determine and dominate nature in the absolute. The truth lies somewhere in between these two extremes. On one hand, humans cannot act in any way that violates the laws of nature. We are bound by the confines of physics and biology. We have freedom to act, but freedom does not equate to power over nature. For a human being relying solely on their natural faculties, there is no such thing as the &amp;quot;freedom&amp;quot; to leap 1000 feet or fly into the sky. Humans cannot simply wish whatever reality they want into existance. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course, none of this validates the premises of the determinists. The fact that we must function within the confines of nature does not mean that our actions are causally predetermined in the absolute. Nor does it mean that we are entirely bound by our instincts. We possess a capacity to defy our insticts. If this were not so, men would mount every woman they see, noone would go on fasts and noone would commit suicide. Humans possess volition; the capacity of self-awareness. While the individual&amp;#39;s faculties are determined by biology, their use of those faculties is up to them. They must be exercised through an act of will, and if they are not exercised then they will atrophy over time. A strong man can choose to not use their strength, and an intelligent man can lay their intellect to waste. On the other hand, a weak man and an intellectually hampered man may push their abilities to their limit. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While a human being is born into a particular environment that they did not choose, they are presented with a multiple of possibilities as to what to make of that environment. Praxeologically speaking, they may choose among multiple possible means to desired ends. We act in order to remove a source of disatisfaction, otherwise we would not act. And to choose to do nothing is still an action. Acting consists of ranking our desired ends in a particular order and persueing means towards those ends, in a process of trial and error. Over time, we may change the ranking of our desires and modify the means that we persue towards obtaining them. Desires are theoretically infinite, while existing resources and the means towards obtaining them are scarce. Therefore, there is always a compelling reason for acting. Our nature is set up so that we cannot reach a stalemate in which no action is possible, unless of course we are afflicted with a serious mental disability. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=8447" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Ethics/default.aspx">Ethics</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Determinism/default.aspx">Determinism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Philosophy/default.aspx">Philosophy</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Human+Nature/default.aspx">Human Nature</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Praxeology/default.aspx">Praxeology</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Thomas+Hobbes/default.aspx">Thomas Hobbes</category></item></channel></rss>