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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://mises.org/Community/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Brainpolice : Human Nature, Anarchism</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Human+Nature/Anarchism/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: Human Nature, Anarchism</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>The Evolution Of Herbert Spencer</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2009/01/28/the-evolution-of-herbert-spencer.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:37:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:85171</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=85171</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=85171</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2009/01/28/the-evolution-of-herbert-spencer.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;The British philosopher Herbert Spencer was a vital player in the developement of theories of evolution in the 19th century. It&amp;#39;s important to note that Spencer was one of the first proponents of the theory of socio-cultural evolution, and social darwinism is a more specific thing than socio-cultural evolution. The kind of evolution that Spencer talked about is broader than biological evolution and is actually not darwinian in nature, but actually closer to lamarkianism. Spencer actually proposed the concept of socio-cultural evolution a number of years prior to Darwin&amp;#39;s release of &amp;quot;Origin of Species&amp;quot; and the method and scope of his work differs from Darwin&amp;#39;s.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sometimes Spencer has been unfairly mischaracterized as a proto-nazi or proto-fascist, but this doesn&amp;#39;t betray any genuine understanding of Spencer&amp;#39;s political views. Herbert Spencer was a radical classical liberal who could easily be construed as a proto-anarchist. To be sure, Spencer was a utilitarian of sorts, but of a different variety than his contemporaries. Spencer was an individualist utilitarian. Compared to the views of most people during the period, Spencer&amp;#39;s early views were actually relatively egalitarian. His notions of socio-cultural evolution lead him to take an organic and historically-based view of societies, and this eventually lead him even to the point of having the chapter &amp;quot;The Right To Ignore The State&amp;quot; in his book &amp;quot;Social Statics&amp;quot;, which was removed in later editions. In either case, Spencer&amp;#39;s philosophy lead him to oppose the political norms of his day, especially the &amp;quot;greatest good for the greatest number&amp;quot; maxim.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At first, the anarchistic conclusions of his evolutionary theory was speculative in nature. Spencer speculated about social evolution necessitating a level of independance and decentralization that effectively makes the state obsolete as a social organ. In this sense, Spencer entered a period of being a &amp;quot;philosophical anarchist&amp;quot; and it is worthwhile to speculate if he may have technically counted as an anarchist at one point, despite never formally calling himself an anarchist. In either case, some of Spencer&amp;#39;s ideas did end up influencing the individualist anarchist Benjamin Tucker, and Proudhon&amp;#39;s notion of spontaneous order and the social organism may at least indirectly be linked to Spencer&amp;#39;s social evolutionary ideas in some ways. However, Benjamin Tucker later charged Spencer with drifting towards moderation and conservatism in his later years as a result of disillusionment, which Murray Rothbard retrospectively seemed to have agreed with to a degree as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Social evolutionary theory may have some gradualist implications, since one is working with long periods of time. To be sure, Spencer&amp;#39;s philosophy of history is very different from Marx&amp;#39;s. While Marx analized history through the lense of his class theory, Spencer was more broadly working within the sphere of social interaction rather than specializing in or limited to class analysis. While Spencer does speak of social organisms or social organs, he does this while remaining true to methodological individualism. Spencer analized history from the perspective of cooperation, contract and production vs. brute force, coercion and authoritarianism. Spencer favored social evolution towards a society based on contract, cooperation and production. He favored an industrial society rather than a militant one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What understandably disillusioned Spencer later in life is that it became clear that history was not consistantly progressing in such a direction. Society was becoming both militant and industrial. Fascism and Marxism were on the rise and classical liberalism was fragmenting. Hence, Spencer&amp;#39;s retreat into a conservative pessemism. Of course, this isn&amp;#39;t to underwrite Spencer&amp;#39;s earlier radicalism, which had anarchistic implications and has been influential on libertarians over the years. Spencer had some very keen insights into the nature of social interaction and the history of social organization, and he practically invented the basis for theories of socio-cultural evoltion. Hence, Spencer definitely has significance in the history of ideas. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=85171" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Anarchism/default.aspx">Anarchism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Utilitarianism/default.aspx">Utilitarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Social+Evolution/default.aspx">Social Evolution</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Libertarianism/default.aspx">Libertarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Philosophy/default.aspx">Philosophy</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Human+Nature/default.aspx">Human Nature</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/History/default.aspx">History</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Marxism/default.aspx">Marxism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Herbert+Spencer/default.aspx">Herbert Spencer</category></item><item><title>Rejecting The Natural/Synthetic Dichotomy</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/10/11/rejecting-the-natural-synthetic-dichotomy.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:34:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:57766</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>506</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=57766</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=57766</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/10/11/rejecting-the-natural-synthetic-dichotomy.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;I reject the natural/synthetic dichotomy. The natural/synthetic dichotomy is manifested in two fundamental ways: (1) the assumption that humans and/or human constructs are separate from nature and (2) the assumption that certain human constructs are &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; while others are not. The problem with this dichotomy is that humans and their constructs are a part and product of nature; it is impossible for humans to step outside of the context of nature. Unless one wishes to posit a supernatural, all that exists or occurs is natural by default. Something that is not natural would be something that simply does not exist or occur at all. Hence, it makes no sense to speak of existing things or phenomenon as if they are not natural, or to defend or support a given thing or phenomenon by appealing to it being natural. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Everything is natural, regaurdless of how common or rare it is, when it occurs or doesn&amp;#39;t occur, wether its beneficial or detrimental, good or bad, and so on. That which is natural, which is simply to say something that occurs or exists,&amp;nbsp;cannot be construed as being good or bad by mere virtue of being natural. Nature is morally neutral in this sense, because the mere existance of a thing or phenomenon in of itself does not signify value. In other words, nature does not have intrinsic value. Understood broadly, it simply is what it is. This is not to say that there is no purpose or merit to assigning value to certain phenomenon, but that its mere occurance is not what gives it value. For if that which is natural is inherently good or bad, then literally everything&amp;nbsp;must be assumed to be&amp;nbsp;inherently good or bad, and that is absurd.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s also important to note that just because something is natural does not necessarily mean that it is universal, inevitable or permanent. Nature is not static, it is dynamic, which is to say that it is in a constant state of flux. That which is common in the present may very well be rendered obsolete and archiac in the future. It&amp;nbsp;can be quite&amp;nbsp;fallacious to appeal to phenomenon from the past as if it is representative of an inevitable future or to regaurd current phenomenon as if they&amp;nbsp;represent a permanent state of affairs. What once was natural can be rendered&amp;nbsp;non-existant over time, and what once was little more than a pipe dream can become &amp;quot;the natural order&amp;quot;. Appealing to the past as &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; is simply a weak argument. The present and future is no less &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; and the &amp;quot;naturalness&amp;quot; of things is really irrelevant. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One way&amp;nbsp;in which the natural/synthetic dichotomy is manifested is in the arguementation of primitivists, anti-civilizationists and radical environmentalists.&amp;nbsp;The contemporary technology and extended division of labor produced by humans is demonized as &amp;quot;unnatural&amp;quot; while more primitive and &amp;quot;self-sufficient&amp;quot; ways of living are romantisized as &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot;. Human civilization is characterized as being inherently antagonistic with nature, and nature is assumed to have intrinsic value. Radically egalitarian philosophy makes use of the dichotomy as well, with egalitarianism being construed as &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; while heirarchy is considered to be &amp;quot;unnatural&amp;quot;. Interestingly, primitive societies are often pointed to as examples of egalitarianism, even though a non-biased look at such societies likely reveals quite a bit of heirarchy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The natural/synthetic dichotomy is also manifested in conservative philosophy. Rigid class heirarchy, religious authority, familial authority, racism, nationalism, have been charactered as &amp;quot;the natural order&amp;quot; (with strong use of naturalistic language used to defend them), as if they are inevitable laws of nature and intrinsic authorities, and deviations from them are construed as synthetic attempts to produce a &amp;quot;new man&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp;in antagonism with nature. Conservative philosophy strongly appeals to tradition as being &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot;, and deviations from tradition such as homosexuality, secularism and multiculturalism are construed as &amp;quot;unnatural&amp;quot;. All of this could be said to stem from a pessemistic and archiac accessment of nature that lies at the heart of conservatism. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Social contract theory and traditional statist apologetics&amp;nbsp;is riddled with the natural/synthetic dichotomy because it tends to construe centralized political organization as if it involves man exiting &amp;quot;the state of nature&amp;quot;, while at the same time there&amp;nbsp;is a very strong temptation to characterize the rise of centralizd&amp;nbsp;political organization as a &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; phenomenon in the sense that is inevitable. Statism is construed as &amp;quot;the natural order&amp;quot; that inevitably arises from social organization. And statist politics is riddled with debate over precisely what kind of centralized political organization is the most &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; or what the &amp;quot;natural progression&amp;quot; will lead to. Traditionally, anarchy is either brushed off as &amp;quot;unnatural&amp;quot; or is conflated with a primitivist &amp;quot;natural state&amp;quot; before centralized political organization took place.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While these various types of social phenomenon and organization most certainly can be evaluated, wether or not they are &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; is really irrelevant to such an evaluation, because they are all &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; to the extent that they occur or exist at all. The natural/synthetic dichotomy is a misnomer that sidetracks from the real substantive debates that could take place.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=57766" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Anarchism/default.aspx">Anarchism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Racism/default.aspx">Racism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Social+Evolution/default.aspx">Social Evolution</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Social+Contract/default.aspx">Social Contract</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Religion/default.aspx">Religion</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Socialism/default.aspx">Socialism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Philosophy/default.aspx">Philosophy</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Human+Nature/default.aspx">Human Nature</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/conservatism/default.aspx">conservatism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Environmentalism/default.aspx">Environmentalism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/History/default.aspx">History</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Primitivism/default.aspx">Primitivism</category></item><item><title>Re: Moral vs Hierarchical obligations </title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/02/28/re-moral-vs-hierarchical-obligations.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:23:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:20317</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=20317</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=20317</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/02/28/re-moral-vs-hierarchical-obligations.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;The following is a response to this video &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoXjrlxDSL4"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoXjrlxDSL4&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dear Mr1001Nights,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unchosen positive obligations are indeed slavery, which should be obvious because the obligations are not chosen. In claiming or bestowing unchosen positive obligations onto other people, you are the authority that must face a burden of proof. The person who claims that others have unchosen positive obligations to them is the one who must prove that others owe some kind of debt to them. In the absence of any objectively definable debt previously accured, the claim is absolute hogwash. To claim an abstract positive right to the servitude of others is to claim authority over them by definition. By all accounts, someone who must fulfill unchosen positive obligations is engaging in involuntary servitude. Involuntary servitude is slavery. Who exactly will enforce these unchosen positive obligations? Obviously everyone is not going to just willingly fulfill them, and when we really start to think more deeply about it, it is impossible for everyone to universally fulfill such positive obligations due to geographical problems and the availability of resources. So some individual or body of men is going to have to enforce these positive obligations, especially for those who resist and refuse to fulfill them. Hence, your system already requires a heirarchy from the get go.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Positive and negative rights inherently contradict eachother because negative rights implies that one is free from unchosen positive obligations imposed by others. The only obligation they could be said to impose is for others to leave one alone. Positive rights bestow an obligation onto people to serve others. Positive rights lead to claims of entitlement to the labor of other people. The enforcement of positive rights onto someone who is unwilling to serve others inherently constitutes theft or extortion from that individual. If Joe has an abstract &amp;quot;right to food&amp;quot;, and Jack has food but doesn&amp;#39;t want to give it up, their in order for Joe&amp;#39;s alleged &amp;quot;right&amp;quot; to be fulfilled, either Joe himself or some agent or 3rd party acting on Joe&amp;#39;s behalf must confiscate the food from Jack. Jack has no choice not to serve Joe and pony up the good.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By all accounts, in the type of society envisoned by market anarchists, there is nothing to stop you from joining together with your fellows who all agree to such positive obligations and to form a community by which you all strive to fulfill them. This would be perfectly fine because all of the people involved actually chose the obligations and believe in them. On the other hand, if someone in this society decides that they no longer favor such obligations, and they do not have any debt withstanding, they are free to opt out of your community and flock elsewhere. I don&amp;#39;t know why it&amp;#39;s so hard for you to understand that your type of society is only one possibility out of many that may co-exist in an anarchy, not some monolithic model that everyone must abide by. Luke12000 and others have tried to point this out endlessly to no avail. There is no reason why your ideal society cannot exist as one option out of many within a larger framework. Market anarchists are not imposing their preferential society on you, so it would only make sense to mutually extend the same &amp;quot;tolerance&amp;quot; back in the other direction.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The problem with the wage slavery arguement is that it applies to any society no matter what system or lack thereof is in place. No matter what system is in place, including socialism, resources are still scarce and material well-being still requires labor. Things must be produced, they do not just fall down like mana from the sky. It is therefore disingenuous to imply that &amp;quot;work or starve&amp;quot; only applies to a so-called &amp;quot;capitalist&amp;quot; society when it still applies no matter what type of organization a society is constituted by. &amp;quot;Work or starve&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;act or die&amp;quot; is not a human created set of choices, it is imposed by the necessities of nature itself. Humans must act in order to achieve the ends they desire. No social or economic or political system can make it so that some kind of production is not required for survival and material well-being. Put frankly, people can&amp;#39;t just sit on their asses all day and expect to have prosperity and material wants, because these things must be produced. What system is in place is rather irrelevant to this fact. This reveals an interesting paradox: your ideal society can exist within a free market, but a free market cannot exist within your ideal society.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another part of the problem with the wage slavery arguement is that it uses a nonsensical definition of coercion. In my understanding, coercion requires human agency, usually realized as a threat of force. But the wage slavery arguement implies that someone taking no action at all, specifically someone simply not giving their stuff or a piece of it to someone else, &amp;quot;coerces&amp;quot; that person into an unwanted circumstance. Noone actually physically forced you to work. Noone actually imposed starvation on you through their human agency. The negative circumstances created by a lack of productive action is simply a fact of life. Production requires human cooperation. One is perfectly free not to cooperate and not to produce, but in the absence of any mechanism that forces them to not cooperate and not produce, the negative circumstances that may come about as a consequence of this is truly no fault but their own, or, put somewhat more lightly, outside of their control and imposed by the inadequacies of nature. In either case, the wage slavery arguement is nonsensical in that it equates the inedequacies of nature to coercion.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As far as the concept of solidarity goes, human beings inherently are not in a state of absolute solidarity. Rather, human beings are incredibly diverse. Each individual is unique unto themselves. Uniformity in traits and preferences runs contrary to how we work as human beings. People have their own identities as individuals and their own self-interest. Self-interest, however, does not negate all cooperation. To the contrary, as psychological egoism demonstrates quite well, people cooperate out of mutual self-interest. It is an error to assume that everyone&amp;#39;s self-interest inherently clashes at all times. It is in people&amp;#39;s rational self-interest to cooperate and associate with eachother and engage in a generally peaceful manner. What I see as being amazing about organic society is that cooperation flourishes despite people&amp;#39;s vast diversity and disagreement. An anarchist society is pluralist, not a uniform model for all of mankind. Market anarchism, when one actually understands it, is the exact same thing as anarchism without adjectives because it provides a framework by which multiple types of societies can co-exist. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Have a nice day. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=20317" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Anarchism/default.aspx">Anarchism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Ethics/default.aspx">Ethics</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Self-interest/default.aspx">Self-interest</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Rational+Egoism/default.aspx">Rational Egoism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Consent/default.aspx">Consent</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Slavery/default.aspx">Slavery</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Human+Nature/default.aspx">Human Nature</category></item></channel></rss>