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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://mises.org/Community/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Brainpolice : Capitalism, Anarchism</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Capitalism/Anarchism/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: Capitalism, Anarchism</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>Transcending Anarcho-Semantics</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/09/06/transcending-anarcho-semantics.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:49:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:50550</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>11</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=50550</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=50550</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/09/06/transcending-anarcho-semantics.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is a reoccuring problem that occurs within internal libertarian and anarchist discourse that I like to call the anarcho-semantics problem. The anarcho-semantics problem most often occurs in discussions and debates between socialist oriented anarchists and free market libertarians, in which there is a massive communication barrier and consequentially endless misunderstandings. The meanings attached to terms such as capitalism, socialism, libertarianism and anarchism vary significantly, and consequentially discourse often devolves into confused flame wars between partisan camps. Both similiarities and distinctions between various partisan camps are blurred, and confused multi-identity complexes may emerge. Each respective camp has its own esoteric language and specific choice of associations. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Those who identify as socialist or collectivist tend to think that laissez-faire economics is merely apologetics for rich or privileged elites, and thus they tend to close their minds to it from the start. As they understand it, capitalism is an inherently authoritarian system that creates negative conditions for workers and people of meager means. Thus, anyone identifying as capitalist is assumed to be defending such negative conditions and various groups of rich or privileged elites. As a consequence, they may tend to bait those who identify as capitalist or individualist into defending such things. Furthermore, any attempt to create a link between laissez-faire economics and anarchism is viewed as a contradiction in terms, and thus those who do flirt with such a combination are demonized. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In response to such attacks, those who identify as capitalist or individualist tend to function in a number of ways. Some of them truly are apologists for the conditions and privileges in question, and thus they don&amp;#39;t even need to be baited into playing such a role. This role is known as vulgar libertarianism. Others do not have such intentions but allow themselves to be baited on and off into playing such a role. This is vulgar libertarianism in a less overt sense in that the person is being baited. And still yet others have no such intentions and have no choice but to repeatedly attempt to clarify what their position actually is and that they actually do not favor or defend the conditions and privileges in question. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The fine tuned individualist quite likely actually opposes the very same privileges and negative conditions that the collectivist or socialist does, only they approach it from a different angle and use different terminology. However, the general tendency in political discourse is for even these people to be attacked as if they defend such things, consequentially erecting a gigantic straw man of their position. They have no choice but to continually clarify that a genuinely free market, as they define and understand it, should not be conflated with the status quo. But the naive socialist or collectivist types continue to mistakenly act as if laissez-faire is the status quo, and hence continues to point the finger at all laissez-faire advocates to blame them for the status quo, which becomes a propaganda tool. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Those who identify as capitalist or individualist tend to think that socialism is an inherently authoritarian system that creatives negative conditions and special privileges. From their perspective, socialists merely engage in apologetics for government controls on people&amp;#39;s private lives. Socialism and government control are essentially the same thing in their worldview. Thus, anyone identifying as socialist is assumed to be defending such government controls. As a consequence, they may tend to bait those who identify as socialist or collectivist into defending such things, including the dictatorships and violent actions that have been perpetuated in the name of socialism or collectivism. Furthermore, any attempt to create a link between socialism and libertarianism is viewed as a contradiction in terms, and thus those who do flirt with such a combination are demonized. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In response to such attacks, those who identify as socialist or collectivist tend to function in a number of ways. Some of them truly are apologists for virtual absolute government control and historical acts of overt violence perpetuated in the name of socialism, and thus they don&amp;#39;t even need to be baited into playing such a role. Others do not necessarily have such intentions but nonetheless allow themselves to be baited on and off into playing such a role. And still yet others have no such intentions and have no choice but to repeatedly attempt to clarify what their position actually is and that they actually do not favor government control or any kind of overt violence. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The fine tuned collectivist quite likely actually opposes the very same government control and overt violence that the capitalist or individualist does, only they approach it from a different angle and use different terminology. However, the general tendency in political discourse is for even these people to be attacked as if they defend such things, consequentially erecting a gigantic straw man of their position. They have no choice but to continually clarify that a genuinely socialistic society, as they define and understand it, should not be conflated with the status quo or much of anything that most people would call socialism in name. But the partisan capitalist and vulgar libertarian types continues to point the finger at all socialists or collectivists to blame them for the status quo and accuse them advocating a return to the same methods that the Soviet Union used, which becomes a propaganda tool. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What one finds interesting upon a nuanced analysis is that the most honest and honorable people from both of the capitalistic and socialistic camps tend to overlap in their desired ends. They actually share many goals, such as the improvement of living standards for the masses, general prosperity, peace and cooperation. But the warped nature of the contemporary political spectrum has skewed and polarized their associations and alliances, pitting them against eachother while pushing them into alliances with groups that theoretically are their political enemies. Thus we free market libertarians allying with conservatives and libertarian socialists allying with marxists and leninists. And we see libertarian socialists spending more time on propaganda campaigns against market anarchists than they spend critisizing authoritarian socialists and actual conservatives. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When the semantic ambiguities and partisan misunderstandings are whittled away, what one is left with is mostly a diverse group of people with commonly good intentons who happen to use entirely different terminology and conceptual angles to describe, support and oppose what is practically the exact same set of things, and beyond this it boils down to little more than a matter of personal preferance. They&amp;#39;re all opposed to the status quo and the negative conditions and special privileges that are associated with it. The concepts and systems that they use to describe what they support and oppose varies, but the essential content of the matter is surpisingly similar. This is not necessarily to say that they are completely identical, but by the very least they are nowhere near as far apart as the semantics and contemporary politics involved would suggest. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=50550" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Anarchism/default.aspx">Anarchism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Collectivism/default.aspx">Collectivism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Capitalism/default.aspx">Capitalism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Socialism/default.aspx">Socialism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Libertarianism/default.aspx">Libertarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Economics/default.aspx">Economics</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Vulgar+Libertarianism/default.aspx">Vulgar Libertarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Anarcho-Capitalism/default.aspx">Anarcho-Capitalism</category></item><item><title>Resolving Anarchist Conflict</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/05/05/resolving-anarchist-conflict.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 00:57:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:31030</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>67</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=31030</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=31030</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/05/05/resolving-anarchist-conflict.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;Conflict between the socialist oriented and market oriented camps within anarchism can get very tedious. Many anarcho-communists and anarcho-syndicalists appear to emphatically claim that market anarchism isn&amp;#39;t truly anarchism, that opposition to private property and capitalism is a requirement for one to be an anarchist, conflate currently existing political and economic systems with a free market and sometimes even defend welfare states as if take the edges off of the alleged evils of capitalism. Some anarcho-capitalists appear to get baited into functioning as vulgar libertarians or&amp;nbsp;they generally associate themselves too closely with contemporary conservatism&amp;nbsp;and therefore end up defending currently existing corporatism as if it is the result of a free market, claim that all forms of socialism are statist political systems, defend paleoconservative positions on issues such as immigration and&amp;nbsp;romantisize feudalism and colonial America.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The bulk of the debate between the two sides consists of a language barrier, semantics and quibbling over property. There is a language barrier over terms such as capitalism, socialism, communism, anarchism and libertarianism to the point where any true meaning is rendered obsolete. Each side suspects that the other side are merely authoritarians in disguise, and sometimes the suspicion is entirely justified (with some social anarchists functioning as state-socialists and some anarcho-capitalists functioning as conservatives). The more that each camp acts foolishly intolerant and monopolostic, the more likely they are to be pushed back into the statist paradime&amp;nbsp;due to&amp;nbsp;reactionary sentiments, leading to the use of political means to dominate against their alleged enemies. Sometimes they spend more time critisizing eachother than they do critisizing contemporary statist ideologies. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Capitalism has different connotations to the various camps. Some consider capitalism to be the current system, some consider it to be separation between labor and ownership, some consider it to be private ownership of the means of production or the extensive use of capital and some consider it to be a spontaneous order resulting from the voluntary and mutually beneficial interpersonal relations between people in the absence of a central planner or state&amp;nbsp;through a process of free trade relations and competition. Socialism has different connotations as well. Some consider socialism to be worker ownership of the means of production, some consider it to be state ownership of the means of production and&amp;nbsp;some consider it to be some sort of egalitarian free market. There&amp;nbsp;are nearly&amp;nbsp;endless semantics over the meanings of the terms which avoids a real discussion and debate about the actual principles that people advocate. These semantic conflicts even exist within each respective camp, as some market anarchists have abandoned&amp;nbsp;the term capitalism. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Etymologically, anarchism simply means &amp;quot;no rulers&amp;quot;. Anything that is without rulers is therefore anarchic by definition. Any philosophy that is opposed to rulers is an anarchistic philosophy by definition. Whatever additional features they may have is only a matter of flavor. On a fundamental level, all anarchists of any type oppose the institution of the state. Anything else that they may support or oppose beside the state is comparatively inconsequential, although it is of course true that non-state institutions may sometimes qualify as examples of rulership. So it does make some degree of sense to say that anarchism is more than mere consistant/radical&amp;nbsp;anti-statism, even if one wants to quibble that such institutions would qualify as states anyways. One way to put it is that anarchists are opposed to crime or plunder in general&amp;nbsp;as a matter of&amp;nbsp;principle, and more large-scale manifestations are merely the institutionalization of crime or plunder. In either case, there is no reason to ostracize people who truly do oppose rulers from the anarchist movement just because they have perhaps a somewhat&amp;nbsp;different flavor than&amp;nbsp;one&amp;#39;s particular camp. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The issue of property is the main area of conflict. The property debate has been going on forever. Some social anarchists seem to think that private property is either a product of the state or inevitably leads to a state. Private property may be thought of as either a legal construct or a form of&amp;nbsp;exploitation that precedes and leads to the formation of states. Of course, one cannot logically hold both positions at once, since that would be like taking both sides of a chicken/egg debate at once. Market anarchists tend to define private property in terms that should actually appeal to a socialist, which is that legitimate private property is the product of labor - a labor theory of property aquisition. How can a socialist oppose labor when that is supposed to be their forte? If consistant to their principles, the market anarchist does not support all legal private property titles, for they have an independant standard of justice in property aquisition that would delegitimize&amp;nbsp;currently existing conditions. In short, they oppose the currently existing legal construct. The vulgar libertarian, however, does fall into the trap of defending all or some illegitimate portion of currently existing private property titles and buisiness arrangements. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, complications arise over the value of labor, as social anarchists tend to cling to some kind of labor theory of value. This is problematic because it doesn&amp;#39;t adequately take into account the labor of the enterprenuer, the dynamic nature of prices and the factor of time in general. Contemporary market anarchists usually have discarded the labor theory of value for a subjective theory of value and theories of time preferance. However, if one observes individualist anarchists such as Benjamin Tucker who still held to a labor theory of value, it would seem to be that case that the such people thought that&amp;nbsp;a free&amp;nbsp;economy would naturally reflect a&amp;nbsp;labor theory of value. So in this sense classical individualist anarchists are entirely supportive of laissez-faire and only disagree with more contemporary market anarchism in terms of what they think the outcome of a free market would be. More contemporary individualist anarchists have merely modified the position in light of changes and improvements in economic theory. If one takes a 19th century individualist anarchist and merely substitutes the subjective theory of value in place of the labor theory of value, one essentially has a contemporary market anarchist. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Diehard social anarchists oppose what they consider to be private property. They often make a distinction between personal property and private property or between possessions and property. They tend to have a principle loosely based on &amp;quot;use&amp;quot; of property that is supposed to be more limited than the extent of control and amount available to the individual that private property allows for. It would seem that there is a threshold of requirements for property ownership with perpetual use at one end and perpetual ownership in the absence of use on the other. If they are pushed and in a logical state of mind, the social anarchist will not tend to&amp;nbsp;condone a standard of perpetual use and the market anarchist will&amp;nbsp;not tend to condone a standard that allows one to hold a title to blatantly abandoned or unowned property, for each of those standards leads to endless absurdities and may justify clearly wrong and exploitative scenarios. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perpetual use is an absurd criteria for ownership, for&amp;nbsp;it would imply that as soon as one parks their car somewhere then&amp;nbsp;it is no longer theirs and therefore someone else may expropriate the car for themselves. In short, it would justify theft. On the other hand, there are problems with&amp;nbsp;titles to&amp;nbsp;ownership of property, particularly land, that has blatantly been abandoned or neglected by the person with the title to ownership and while there simultaneously&amp;nbsp;are actually other people who actually actively labor upon it. Intergenerational or perpetual ownership over property that one makes no use of yet others do leads to fuedalism. Surely future generations of people should not be bound to a nullified claim of ownership by someone else, some rich aristocrat who no longer contributes in any real way to the upkeep of the property or makes any use of it at all. In order to resolve the issue, some process of identifying or clarifying&amp;nbsp;whether or not the property in question&amp;nbsp;is abandoned by its original owner would make sense. It should be noted, however, that&amp;nbsp;this does not necessarily justify the claims of the&amp;nbsp;geolibertarians, who erroneously conclude that private land ownership is illegitimate and/or there should be collective land ownership as a universal standard.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When the absurdities&amp;nbsp;resulting from the idea of&amp;nbsp;perpetual use are pointed out, the social anarchist will often proclaim &amp;quot;general use&amp;quot; to be the standard for ownership. But general use is very vague, leaving open a range of possibilities. It would seem to be the case that what constitutes general use would have to be agreed upon or arbitrated,&amp;nbsp;quite possibly varying&amp;nbsp;from organization to organization and/or community to community. If this is conceded, then the only real difference between the two sides is a matter of what type of voluntary precedent one personal prefers. So long as each side remains at least passively tolerant of the fact that perhaps different communities or organizations of people will have somewhat different standards, then there is no reason for conflict. Free association resolves&amp;nbsp;the problem. If a standard objectively ends up being more sucessful and efficient through voluntary interactions, then it will tend to win out in the dynamic and evolutionary process of trial and error that is inherent in free association and competition. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Social anarchists demand worker ownership of the means of production. If consistant to the principles of voluntary interpersonal relations, the market anarchist has no choice but to support the liberty of individuals to voluntarily form worker&amp;#39;s collectives and opt out of&amp;nbsp;or secede from other particular organizations. If the social anarchist is likewise consistant, they have no choice but to support the liberty of individuals to voluntary form into employer-employee relationships and opt out of or secede from their worker&amp;#39;s collectives. If one is forced into or out of such associations through force or the threat thereof, then they would&amp;nbsp;effectively become slaves. So long as neither side actually forces anyone into their prefered organizational structures, each side can mutually persue their desires without infringement upon others. In a sense, the key question to ask is: can I opt out of your organization/community/society? If not, then it is no different than a state. If so, then there obviously is not going to be absolute uniformity in terms of what particular organizations and types of organizations people choose to participate in, as everyone is not identifical in their preferances, traits and abilities. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;An interesting&amp;nbsp;cunundrum to present a social anarchist with is, &amp;quot;I want to be a wage slave, I want to work for a boss, so what do you do if I truly do choose to enter into a contractual relationship with someone for wages in exchange for my labor? Why can&amp;#39;t&amp;nbsp;I rent out the products of my labor if I sincerely want to? What if I want to opt out of the worker&amp;#39;s collective and look for an employer?&amp;quot;. If an individual is truly autonamous, then noone may legitimately force them out of this personal association or force them to remain in a particular association, whether it is a single individual or &amp;quot;the majority&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;community&amp;quot;. Likewise, an individual should&amp;nbsp;have the liberty&amp;nbsp;to opt out of an employer-employee relationship and voluntarily organize with others into worker&amp;#39;s&amp;nbsp;collectives or other types of organization. One must recognize the liberty of even a single individual to secede from an organization. So long as one does not have any genuine debt or contractual obligations withstanding, they should be able to exit the association and persue other ones. That&amp;#39;s precisely how free competition works, as undesired and inefficient modes of organization become obsolete by people&amp;#39;s choices not to associate with or participate in them. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Forms of organization that are considered to be socialistic are theoretically possible options in a free market. This is something that&amp;nbsp;some people&amp;nbsp;from both the anarcho-capitalist and social anarchist camps seem to not want to aknowledge, each for different reasons and from different perspectives. The consistant proponent of voluntary interpersonal relations has a certain kind of tolerance that allows for those who disagree with them to opt out of their prefered organizations and voluntarily form alternatives. It&amp;#39;s essentially a live and let live perspective: don&amp;#39;t force me into your community or organization and I shall do likewise. Call it whatever one wants, the law of equal liberty, the non-aggression principle, decision-making in proportion to the degree that one is effected, etc., it&amp;#39;s all essentially&amp;nbsp;the same thing. Within the confines of the general principle, anything additional is only optional or preferential. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Philosophies and ideas in general evolve over time, and this is just&amp;nbsp;as true&amp;nbsp;about&amp;nbsp;anarchism as it is about anything else. The economics and philosophy behind anarchism have evolved, sometimes into territory that is very market oriented. There is a progression and tree&amp;nbsp;of sorts that can be traced from the most original anarchists to currently existing factions, including market anarchism. Mutualism can be seen as&amp;nbsp;progressing to individualist anarchism and eventually into contemporary market anarchism, so claims that market anarchism has no place within anarchist tradition is false and ignores the variance that has always existed within the general movement.&amp;nbsp;To try to cling absolutely to every single aspect of an obsolete theory&amp;nbsp;from centuries&amp;nbsp;ago starts to make one rather conservative, and in this sense some social anarchists have become blind traditionalists who are unwilling to modify their ideas in the face of new information. On the other hand, contemporary market anarchists should have a lot of appriciation for early anarchist tradition and be willing to see what they may have in common with more socialist oriented anarchists. They should understand themselves in historical context and aknowledge that certain segments of their philosophy wouldn&amp;#39;t exist without those who came before them, the Proudhons and Bakunins and&amp;nbsp;Tuckers and Spooners. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is no rational reason for there to be&amp;nbsp;the degree of conflict that currently&amp;nbsp;exists between the different camps of anarchists. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=31030" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Anarchism/default.aspx">Anarchism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Competition/default.aspx">Competition</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Subjective+Value/default.aspx">Subjective Value</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Capitalism/default.aspx">Capitalism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Socialism/default.aspx">Socialism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Economics/default.aspx">Economics</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Philosophy/default.aspx">Philosophy</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Free+Association/default.aspx">Free Association</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Labor/default.aspx">Labor</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/History/default.aspx">History</category></item><item><title>Capitalism and Socialism: Strategic Dead Ends</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/01/16/capitalism-and-socialism-strategic-dead-ends.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:59:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:9923</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>3</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=9923</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=9923</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/01/16/capitalism-and-socialism-strategic-dead-ends.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Where have all the anarcho-anarchists gone?&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In his classic essay &amp;quot;Left and Right: The Prospects for Liberty&amp;quot;, Murray Rothbard describes socialism as a &amp;quot;middle of the road doctrine&amp;quot; in that it supports political or conservative means in the name of achieving radical, revolutionary or liberal ends. This problem can even be seen in many allegedly anarchistic socialists, many of whom still seem to take a rather Marxist approach in that they seem to think that the state can be used to crush &amp;quot;the capitaliists&amp;quot; and socialize everything, and then the state will just wither away, which is absolutely silly. &amp;quot;We must destroy private property first, then we can worry about dismantling the state&amp;quot;, they say. They also have a tendency to function as apologists for the state in the name of anti-corporatism. For example, while Noam Chomsky claims to be an anarcho-syndicalist, I think he is actually functioning as a social democrat because he has openly defended the welfare state, advocates plenty of government interventions domestically, has argued that the government is &amp;quot;at least somewhat susceptable to popular control&amp;quot; and thinks that if the state were dismantled now we would be left with &amp;quot;private tyrannies&amp;quot;. So how can someone like Chomsky claim to be an anarchist? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I completely agree with Rothbard&amp;#39;s analysis in the essay. But perhaps we should turn this analysis on its head, or perhaps extend it further. Is this not also true of the &amp;quot;capitalists&amp;quot;, including many &amp;quot;anarcho-capitalists&amp;quot;? Are not many &amp;quot;capitalist&amp;quot; libertarians openly advocating conservative means as well? When they&amp;#39;re advocating all kinds of interventions to fight immigration, anti-abortion laws, and enthusiastically campaigning for conservative Republicans? Are many libertarians, at least &amp;quot;vulgar&amp;quot; ones, not functioning as apologists for corporatism or corporations by using the theory of a free market to defend currently existing &amp;quot;capitalism&amp;quot; as if it is a free market or came about as a result of such a process? If &amp;quot;capitalism&amp;quot; is thought of as just another strategy for using the state, one based on use the state to try to protect property titles or property classes (regaurdless of justice) and maximize efficiency, then it ends up being not much better then &amp;quot;socialism&amp;quot;. The disagreement between the two appears not to be one of fundamental principle at all, but a matter of which interest groups state intervention should be used to benefit and which interest group we want to be apologists for (the state vs. the corporations, the workers vs. the employers, &amp;quot;the rich&amp;quot; vs. &amp;quot;the poor&amp;quot;, and so on)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&amp;#39;t see how my strategic objection to Noam Chomsky does not apply just as much to certain right-libertarians and anarcho-capitalists. When I see libertarians argueing that since the state still exists, we should view it and use it as if it were a private property owner in the present and we should use the political process to our short-term advantage, my mind is blown. &amp;quot;We must stop this influx of people into the territory and work within the system to get good guys elected first, then we can worry about dismantling the state&amp;quot;, they say. Isn&amp;#39;t this kind of &amp;quot;post-ponement&amp;quot; logic precisely what has always gone wrong with the socialist movement, namely, that they have advocated and used political means towards their ends in the present under the hopes that it will lead to a future anarchy, while in objective reality that are functioning as statists and have reinforced the institutional framework that the state thrives upon? While many social anarchists may be functioning as social democrats in reality, perhaps many self-proclaimed market anarchists are functioning as conservatives in reality or classical liberals at best, because they are still functioning with a statist strategic mindset.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In my view, both capitalism and socialism have basically become anti-concepts with no objective meaning anymore. Their meanings change depending on context, and this leads to self-contradictary connotations to the words. There is definitional chaos. In the case of socialism, worker&amp;#39;s control and government ownership are inherently contradictary. In the case of capitalism, free economic activity and government protection of buisiness and property titles are contradictary. Socialists often end up advocating government ownership as a strategy in the name of worker&amp;#39;s control, which is self-defeating in principle because you cannot have worker&amp;#39;s control when the government is owning the means of production, considering that the government and the workers are mutually exclusive. Capitalists often end up advocating government protection of property titles in the name of the free market, which is self-defeating in principle because not all currently existing property titles are just, and no free market exists.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=9923" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Anarchism/default.aspx">Anarchism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Capitalism/default.aspx">Capitalism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Socialism/default.aspx">Socialism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Libertarianism/default.aspx">Libertarianism</category></item><item><title>"Vulgar" Libertarianism and Voluntary Socialism</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2007/12/29/quot-vulgar-quot-libertarianism-and-voluntary-socialism.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 07:37:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:7905</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>5</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=7905</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=7905</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2007/12/29/quot-vulgar-quot-libertarianism-and-voluntary-socialism.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;From what I&amp;#39;ve been able to gather, &amp;quot;vulgar&amp;quot; libertarianism is a label applied to the tendency of some libertarians, particularly with right-wing sympathies, to defend currently existing property arrangements and corporations as if they came about as a result of a free market process or as if there currently is a free market. That is, vulgar libertarians defend big buisiness in itself regaurdless of any genuine criteria for justice. A vulgar libertarian tends to conflate the difference between property rights and property classes or property titles. In &amp;quot;The Ethics of Liberty&amp;quot;, Murray Rothbard made a criticism of utilitarian economists in that they have a tendency to treat currently existing property titles as legitimate without any ethical criteria for justice in property aquisition. Thus, they end up functioning as apologists for the status quo. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Most certainly, the contemporary left makes a conflation of its own between a &amp;quot;free market&amp;quot; and currently existing capitalism. The contemporary left tends to argue that we currently have a &amp;quot;free market&amp;quot;, point to bad consequences, and then argue that we need more government intervention. The contemporary right, on the other hand, makes the exact same conflation but uses it for different purposes. The contemporary right tends to argue that we currently have a &amp;quot;free market&amp;quot;, deny bad consequences, and defend the status quo on these grounds; at best, justifying current levels of intervention. &amp;quot;Vulgar&amp;quot; libertarians are falling into this same fallacy that the contemporary right ends up engaging in. They are using the theory of a free market to defend the consequences of a non-free market. &amp;quot;Capitalism&amp;quot;, as it currently exists, is not a free market. Not a single market anarchist (or &amp;quot;anarcho-capitalist&amp;quot;), insofar as they are consistant,&amp;nbsp;supports &amp;quot;capitalism&amp;quot; as it currently exists.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Libertarians should try to avoid being blind defenders of &amp;quot;the rich&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;the corporations&amp;quot; at all costs. This only feeds the left&amp;#39;s mischaracterizations of us as heartless apologists for robber barons. The rich and corporations most certainly do not always achieve their wealth and status as a result of free market means. There is a political apparatus in place that externalizes the costs of corporations, protects them from competition, limits liability and provides a plethora of special privileges. There is a difference between being pro-buisiness as an end in itself and being pro-market. The free market, as a process, may very well be detrimental to some buisinesses, since those who cannot compete lose out. The currently existing corporate structure has skewed incentives and partially restricted competition.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When talking about &amp;quot;the rich&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;the poor&amp;quot;, a question behooves us: which rich people and which poor people are we talking about? True, some people get rich by productivity. Others do not. Some get rich by using the state to restrict their competition and give them special privileges at the expense of the tax-payer. True, some people end up poor because of their own bad decisions, such as a lack of saving, excessive consumption, bad spending priorities, and so on. Other people end up poor due to bad circumstances caused by state intervention in the economy. To paint a picture in which all poor people got that way because they are uneducated, unskilled and lazy is unfair. And to paint a picture in which all rich people got that way because they are educated, talented and productive is not accurate by any stretch of the imagination. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As any libertarian who has done the slightest bit of reading on economics surely knows, there are many ways in which state intervention in the economy causes and increases poverty. Inflation devalues our money. Taxation in itself reduces our paychecks and makes us pay higher prices. Protectionism makes us pay higher prices and limits our options as consumers. Welfare, while it might artificially keep some people on their feet, ends up effectively creating stagnation and disincentivizing employment. Corporate welfare does steal from the poor to give to the rich. Minimum wage laws cause unemployment, particularly for teenagers, young adults and entry-level jobs in general. Pointing out how the state&amp;#39;s intervention is detrimental to the cause of the poor and average worker can help clear up a lot of confusion and possibly win over some people of left-wing persuasions to libertarian causes. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another important point to keep in mind is that, in a free market, there is nothing to stop people from voluntarily forming into types of&amp;nbsp;association or organization that could be considered &amp;quot;socialistic&amp;quot;. The idea of &amp;quot;libertarian socialism&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;voluntary socialism&amp;quot; initially struck me as nonsensical. While I still do not personally favor it in terms of my preferences for what I&amp;#39;d like to persue&amp;nbsp;in a free market, it has become clear that I cannot oppose it in principle, that I must support the liberty of people to voluntarily organize into unions, co-ops and&amp;nbsp;communes&amp;nbsp;so long as they do not force me into it. Free association and free competition has pluralist implications in that different preferences can be persued voluntarily while peacefully co-existing.&amp;nbsp;No single economic system or mode of organization can be unilaterally and monocentrically imposed. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Socialism can theoretically be compatible with libertarianism to the extent that it is voluntary. Unfortunately, the vast majority of socialists are not voluntarists. They wish to force socialism onto everyone else. Unlike anarchists, who are primarily opposed to the initiation of force and the institution of rulership, socialists are primarily opposed to capital and private ownership. But an anarchist can be a socialist if their socialism is in the context of free association and their socialist system is left to free competition. Indeed, all of the earliest anarchists were socialist types. The socialist movement arguably grew out of the anarchist movement, but went on to merge with the conservatism of the day and become an ideology that supports the state as a means to its ends. But there still are some socialists who are voluntarists.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In reality, it is impossible to actually completely abolish private property. Even in the Soviet Union, private property was still allowed to remain in place to some extent, and it also existed in the arena of black markets. All socialist systems so far have maintained some degree of private property in order to survive at all. Even the system of the socialist anarchists, if put into practise, would maintain private property, even if that private property is commonly held or stolen from its original just owners. While many socialists openly advocate the abolition of private property, the actual substance of what they advocate is no such thing. At best,&amp;nbsp;it is the transferance of private property into different hands. And to the extent that it is transfered from unjust owners to just owners, this is actually perfectly fine. To the extent that it is transfered from just owners to unjust owners, to the extent that it constitutes outright expropriation from legitimate owners, it is a nightmare. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Us anarcho-capitalists (and market anarchists, a term I prefer more) are constantly being cajolled by social anarchists and accused of not really being anarchists. So we have to constantly justify that our philosophy is completely compatible with anarchism and grew out of its tradition. I personally do not like the term anarcho-capitalist because the word capitalist is like a red flag to a bull, especially to traditional anarchists who consider opposition to capitalism to be a core tenet of anarchism. We have to constantly explain that by the term &amp;quot;capitalist&amp;quot; we do not mean &amp;quot;capitalism&amp;quot; as it currently exists or any kind of system of government-buisiness patronage. We are always having to distinguish the difference between a free market and the current system, which people on the left always confuse. We should not err in justifying their claims by actually functioning as apologists for the current system and being shills for currently existing property arrangements and the corporate structure. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=7905" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Anarchism/default.aspx">Anarchism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Competition/default.aspx">Competition</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Capitalism/default.aspx">Capitalism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Socialism/default.aspx">Socialism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Libertarianism/default.aspx">Libertarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Economics/default.aspx">Economics</category></item></channel></rss>